Hi. Thomas Burdick recommends I switch to your service for Cells. I am on SourceForge now if you want to check out my two projects there, RoboCells (actual files available) and Cells (which I was about to populate before Thomas spoke up. License is MITs. Code is all CL, tho C glue is always a possibility. Can do? I would also do Cello (the Cells-based GUI) and RoboCells (RoboCup ala Cells) under the same project. I am approaching three users (what is that on the Arlo scale? a "movement"?), and they are replicating each other's efforts already trying to make sense out of my code. thx, kenny -- http://tilton-technology.com Why Lisp? http://alu.cliki.net/RtL%20Highlight%20Film Your Project Here! http://alu.cliki.net/Industry%20Application