Mario Mommer <mmommer@common-lisp.net> writes:

Paolo Amoroso <amoroso@mclink.it> writes:

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It looks like links established in the past to messages in the mcclim-devel mailing list are now broken. Any changes to the list archive?

I foolishly trusted apt-get dist-upgrade to do the right thing a few weeks ago. If it did something thoroughly, it was making a mess of things. We have been cleaning up the radioactive fallout for weeks now, and I presume you are getting your share of it :-|

Are the messages still there? If not, I can rebuild the archive etc.

the messages are there, but the ids are all different :( i don't think that rebuilding the archive will help in this case (since it must be the underlying mbox which is messed up). i'm trying to see if there's a costant offset between the old ids and the new ids and maybe we can just mess with that... -- -Marco Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget the perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. -Leonard Cohen

Marco Baringer <mb@bese.it> writes:

Marco Baringer <mb@bese.it> writes:

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the messages are there, but the ids are all different :(

i take that back. paolo's message with subject "Windows opened by open-window-stream are not automatically closed when their parent is closed" is not in the current archives (not in the month of february at least). [it's not in gmane either so i don't really know where it went]

I have a theory.

i noticed that the id numbers are much much lower in the new archives, so we must be missing a large number of emails (around 3000). if anyone has a copy of the emails and sends them to me i can try rebuilding the archives and see if that fixs it.

There are two mboxes, one with emails prior to the move to common-lisp.net which contains emails dating back to olden days. Another one with current mails. At some point we batch-regenerated all archives on the site, so these went missing. I'm regenerating the archives right now to see if that makes them reappear. I think the right thing to do would be to merge the two mboxes. Regards, Mario.

Mario Mommer <mmommer@common-lisp.net> writes:

Paolo Amoroso <amoroso@mclink.it> writes: [...]

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http://mcclim.cliki.net/Bug [...] All but the first link on that page (the one from june 2005) seem to be working now. I presume that this particular message has a much

I think I have fixed this, and everything else looks good. Thanks, Paolo -- Lisp Propulsion Laboratory log - http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log

Paolo Amoroso <amoroso@mclink.it> writes:

I spoke too early:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.mcclim.devel/657

The links point to different, unrelated messages.

Is this a problem with common-lisp.net or with gmane? Personally, I find it a design flaw of the archiver that it indexes depending on message number rather than on message id. The latter one exist for a reason while the former might be incidental (watching the mailman arch tool grind on mailboxes gives the impression that it builds hash tables and then traverses them when writing output, so there may be a nondeterministic element in this.) Regards, Mario.

Paolo Amoroso <amoroso@mclink.it> writes:

I think it's related to Common-Lisp.net. I have provided the above link to a mcclim-devel message by Robert Goldman that explains the problem. But I have used a Gmane link just for redundancy, not because Gmane is involved.

Ah ok :-) Well, I don't really know what to do. I'll investigate later today or tomorrow. If anyone has an idea, please let me know. Regards, Mario.