[alexandria-devel] Reminder alexandria:curry is not currying
Hi, Is there any progress on this discussion? http://www.mail-archive.com/alexandria-devel@common-lisp.net/msg00199.html I really won't use `curry' as partial application. I hope `partial-apply' will be soon available. -- Tomohiro Matsuyama <tomo@cx4a.org>
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Tomohiro Matsuyama <tomo@cx4a.org> wrote:
Is there any progress on this discussion?
http://www.mail-archive.com/alexandria-devel@common-lisp.net/msg00199.html
I really won't use `curry' as partial application. I hope `partial-apply' will be soon available.
There has been no progress in the discussion because there has been no clear winner with respect to how the partial application macros should be named. While I understand the objections against using the term "curry" to name partial application, the naming is still a question of style. Unfortunately, the wrong usage of the term "curry" has been going on in the Common Lisp world for years now, and many people have moved over to using Alexandria's CURRY and RCURRY instead of the versions in their private library. At this point, it would be really upsetting to remove those names from Alexandria again, however "wrong" they may be. So, if anything, there should be additional names that are more correct. Given the discussion from 2009, I'd say we need CURRY == PAPPLY == PARTIALLY-APPLY and RCURRY == RPAPPLY == REVERSE-PARTIALLY-APPLY. If the matter is important to you, please submit a patch. -Hans
On 11 April 2012 08:49, Hans Hübner <hans.huebner@gmail.com> wrote:
There has been no progress in the discussion because there has been no clear winner with respect to how the partial application macros should be named. While I understand the objections against using the term "curry" to name partial application, the naming is still a question of style.
Unfortunately, the wrong usage of the term "curry" has been going on in the Common Lisp world for years now, and many people have moved over to using Alexandria's CURRY and RCURRY instead of the versions in their private library. At this point, it would be really upsetting to remove those names from Alexandria again, however "wrong" they may be.
So, if anything, there should be additional names that are more correct. Given the discussion from 2009, I'd say we need CURRY == PAPPLY == PARTIALLY-APPLY and RCURRY == RPAPPLY == REVERSE-PARTIALLY-APPLY. If the matter is important to you, please submit a patch.
Hans pretty much nails it. I'm fine adding PARTIAL-APPLY and REVERSE-PARTIAL-APPLY as synomyms, but not so wild about PAPPLY and RPAPPLY. Cheers, -- Nikodemus
Hans pretty much nails it. I'm fine adding PARTIAL-APPLY and REVERSE-PARTIAL-APPLY as synomyms, but not so wild about PAPPLY and RPAPPLY.
Great! BTW, I have three candidates for synonyms: 1. PARTIAL-APPLY (wrong grammar?) 2. PARTIALLY-APPLY (too descriptive?) 3. APPLY-PARTIALLY (used in GNU Emacs, natural for me) Which is better or natural for English speakers? -- Tomohiro Matsuyama <tomo@cx4a.org>
On 11 April 2012 13:59, Tomohiro Matsuyama <tomo@cx4a.org> wrote:
BTW, I have three candidates for synonyms:
1. PARTIAL-APPLY (wrong grammar?) 2. PARTIALLY-APPLY (too descriptive?) 3. APPLY-PARTIALLY (used in GNU Emacs, natural for me)
I would go with #1, but #3 doesn't sound bad either. ...but I'm not a native speaker either. Cheers, -- nikodemus
BTW, I have three candidates for synonyms:
1. PARTIAL-APPLY (wrong grammar?) 2. PARTIALLY-APPLY (too descriptive?) 3. APPLY-PARTIALLY (used in GNU Emacs, natural for me)
I would go with #1, but #3 doesn't sound bad either. ...but I'm not a native speaker either.
Whichever is chosen, I don't care actually. I'm waiting for the implementation :) -- Tomohiro Matsuyama <tomo@cx4a.org>
Unfortunately, the wrong usage of the term "curry" has been going on in the Common Lisp world for years now, and many people have moved over to using Alexandria's CURRY and RCURRY instead of the versions in their private library. At this point, it would be really upsetting to remove those names from Alexandria again, however "wrong" they may be.
well, keeping on calling a spade a 'hammer is also upsetting once we got to know that it's not called a 'spade by the rest of the world... :) sticking to old versions in the age of version control is trivial. and if it's not, then that is the real problem that needs fixing. i'm being philosophical here, promoting consistency (one may say truth even), without a strong opinion on the actual issue. -- attila Notice the erosion of your (digital) freedom, and do something about it! PGP: 2FA1 A9DC 9C1E BA25 A59C 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 OTR XMPP: 8647EEAC EA30FEEF E1B55146 573E52EE 21B1FF06
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