Re: [Antik-devel] [lisp-stat] ann: numerical-lisp on github.com

-- Illation Pty Ltd 8/350 Collins Street Melbourne 3000 T: +61 3 8399 9442 M: +61 4 0096 4240 On 2012-10-20 17:48 , "David Hodge" davidbhodge@gmail.com wrote: >Hi Tony & list members, > > > >Steve and I have sat here at the Changi Sailing CLub in Singapore and >considered the problem of climate warming, solving world hunger and >bringing about global peace. Incredibly, we also managed to spare some >cycles for CLS. As a priority, we'd like to suggest that re-building the >community should be the first priority. This is simply too big for one >person to tackle without it being a full-time job. > >So, we'd like to suggest, in a rough priority order > >1. Make CLS "quicklispable" - quite important from the viewpoint of >promoting adoption in the community and just for general ease of use. > I am nearly there with that, I think. But will need some guidance >tom Zach to know how to package things up. > >2. Documentation. Publish a project webpage, and get some level of >documentation published asap. (using the gsll /antik documentation as an >example fork instance). Not only a single reference source, but it will >contribute to the building of a community. > >3. Numeric library. In another email I proposed we start with GSL as the >replacement for liblispstat. Unless I hear something to the contrary, I >will proceed with integrating that. > >4. Unit tests. Changing to gsl above will require that we revise the >current tests. > >5. Develop an agreed roadmap for the next few months once we have a >baseline established. For instance i Know Steve is interested in PMML and >leveraging regression models, so that might be the first cab off the rank >in terms of function > >There are some other software engineering hygiene matter in terms of >identifying what implemented and whats not in the source and just >getting the workflow between us all settled. There's a fair amount of >bit-rot and work that's required to get this up to modern standards. And >I (david, that is) promise to push all my changes for review next >weekend. Probably won't be able to do it this weekend, due to an urgent >project in Malaysia. > >We'd also like to suggest attempting to get a few select people on board >by invite, for example Luke., Tamas, Mirko > >So, one thing that would be useful would be to arrange some sort of Skype >conference, or audio conference to nail down any agreements - so >wondering when we might be able to do that. Next weekend is a long >weekend in Singapore, so possibly we can make something happen then. > >Cheers > >Steve and David > > > > >On 19/10/2012, at 6:44 PM, A.J. Rossini blindglobe@gmail.com wrote: > >> I guess I need to find an excuse to pass through singapore for business! >> >> Best, >> -tony >> >> On 10/19/12, David Hodge davidbhodge@gmail.com wrote: >>> Its a good idea - with a bit of refactoring I think changing the >>>numerical >>> layer should not be to hard. >>> >>> something to think about. >>> >>> Steve and I are meeting tomorrow, this is definitely on the list of >>>things >>> to discuss, apart from beer and saying >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> On 19/10/2012, at 3:58 PM, "A.J. Rossini" blindglobe@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds good! >>>> >>>> Am happy to help, my end goal is to play with a lispy statistically >>>> clear DSL, not write numerics :-). >>>> >>>> As long as we get solid numerics, I'm happy to use macros to play >>>> around with the interfaces I want to see on the dsl, unless every >>>> happens to like what I like. >>>> >>>> Clone and pull/push requests seem to be best, making branches which >>>> reflect author names and topics or both name-and-topic. >>>> >>>> Shared access works as well, but not reason not to keep separate. >>>> >>>> Best,-tony >>>> >>>> On 10/19/12, Mirko Vukovic mirko.vukovic@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Based on a recent >>>>> >>>>>discussionhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/lisp-stat/sYBndICy_HA/dis >>>>cussion>on >>>>> the Common Lisp Statistics group, I decided to start a github project >>>>> numerical-lisp https://github.com/mirkov/numerical-lisp. >>>>> >>>>> The purpose of the project is to serve as an ordered (as much as >>>>> possible) >>>>> collection of thoughts on what would make a useful and powerful >>>>>system >>>>> for >>>>> numerical programming, analysis and visualization based on >>>>>common-lisp. >>>>> I >>>>> suspect the discussion will be taking place on the common lisp >>>>> statistics >>>>> group, antik, and maybe others. I don't think that we should form >>>>>yet >>>>> another discussion forum. Coding would start in the next few months. >>>>> >>>>> The project would depend a great deal on Antik, gsll, cl-num-utils, >>>>>and >>>>> other numerical libraries. The goal is not to start yet another >>>>> incompatible numerical library. Instead, the goal is to provide a >>>>> flexible >>>>> >>>>> framework into which one can plug in existing libraries with >>>>>relatively >>>>> little modification. >>>>> >>>>> When it comes to coding, there will be relatively little intense >>>>> numerical >>>>> or graphics coding. Instead, we should use as many of already >>>>>existing >>>>> resources and libraries already available, and allow enough >>>>>flexibility >>>>> so >>>>> as not to be locked to a particular library. We should also look at >>>>> other >>>>> systems (R, numpy, Matlab, mathematica, Macsyma), and incorporate >>>>>their >>>>> best features, albeit in a lispy way. The project may boil down to >>>>> software engineering, and good language design (maybe we should study >>>>> Fortress for hints) >>>>> >>>>> Right now the project is quite empty, and I will add to it over the >>>>> coming >>>>> weeks. Once I figure out how github operates for collaborative >>>>>work, I >>>>> would welcome contributions from others as well. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this to be a community effort. >>>>> >>>>> Mirko >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "Common Lisp Statistics" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to lisp-stat@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> lisp-stat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lisp-stat?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> best, >>>> -tony >>>> >>>> blindglobe@gmail.com >>>> Muttenz, Switzerland. >>>> "Commit early,commit often, and commit in a repository from which we >>>> can easily roll-back your mistakes" (AJR, 4Jan05). >>>> >>>> Drink Coffee: Do stupid things faster with more energy! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>Groups >>>> "Common Lisp Statistics" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lisp-stat@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lisp-stat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lisp-stat?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>Groups >>> "Common Lisp Statistics" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lisp-stat@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lisp-stat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lisp-stat?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> best, >> -tony >> >> blindglobe@gmail.com >> Muttenz, Switzerland. >> "Commit early,commit often, and commit in a repository from which we >> can easily roll-back your mistakes" (AJR, 4Jan05). >> >> Drink Coffee: Do stupid things faster with more energy! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>Groups "Common Lisp Statistics" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lisp-stat@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>lisp-stat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lisp-stat?hl=en. >> >> > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Common Lisp Statistics" group. >To post to this group, send email to lisp-stat@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >lisp-stat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lisp-stat?hl=en. > >