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error loading stmx with abcl 1.9.0
by Massimiliano Ghilardi 09 May '22

09 May '22

Hi everybody, I just tried loading my library "stmx" with abcl-1.9.0, and it produces the following error: $ abcl Armed Bear Common Lisp 1.9.0 Java 18.0.1-ea Debian OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Low-level initialization completed in 0.122 seconds. Startup completed in 0.536 seconds. Loading /home/max/.abclrc completed in 7.901 seconds. Type ":help" for a list of available commands. CL-USER(1): (ql:quickload "stmx") To load "stmx": Load 1 ASDF system: stmx; Loading "stmx" [package alexandria].............................. ;; more lines omitted... [package stmx.lang]............................... [package stmx].................................... [package stmx.util]........................ Error loading /home/max/.cache/common-lisp/abcl-1.9.0-fasl43-linux-x64/home/max/my/common-lisp/stmx/util/tcell.abcl at line 14 (offset 935) The slot TRANSACTIONAL is unbound in the object #<TRANSACTIONAL-DIRECT-SLOT {2D9B58FE}>. [Condition of type UNBOUND-SLOT] Restarts: 0: [TRY-RECOMPILING] Recompile tcell and try loading it again 1: [RETRY] Retry loading FASL for #<ASDF/LISP-ACTION:CL-SOURCE-FILE "stmx" "util" "tcell">. 2: [ACCEPT] Continue, treating loading FASL for #<ASDF/LISP-ACTION:CL-SOURCE-FILE "stmx" "util" "tcell"> as having been successful. 3: [RETRY] Retry ASDF operation. 4: [CLEAR-CONFIGURATION-AND-RETRY] Retry ASDF operation after resetting the configuration. 5: [ABORT] Give up on "stmx" 6: [RETRY] Retry SLIME REPL evaluation request. 7: [*ABORT] Return to SLIME's top level. 8: [ABORT] Abort thread. Backtrace: 0: (SYSTEM:BACKTRACE) 1: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {25F0C5DA}> {25F0C5DA}> #<UNBOUND-SLOT {50DED6EF}> #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {25F0C5DA}> {25F0C5DA}>) 2: (APPLY #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {25F0C5DA}> {25F0C5DA}> (#<UNBOUND-SLOT {50DED6EF}> #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {25F0C5DA}> {25F0C5DA}>)) 3: (SYSTEM::RUN-HOOK SYSTEM::*INVOKE-DEBUGGER-HOOK* #<UNBOUND-SLOT {50DED6EF}> #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {25F0C5DA}> {25F0C5DA}>) 4: (INVOKE-DEBUGGER #<UNBOUND-SLOT {50DED6EF}>) 5: (ERROR UNBOUND-SLOT :INSTANCE #<STMX::TRANSACTIONAL-DIRECT-SLOT {2D9B58FE}> :NAME STMX:TRANSACTIONAL) 6: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {2BE435C1}> {2BE435C1}> (#<STANDARD-CLASS STMX::TRANSACTIONAL-DIRECT-SLOT {3ECE7861}> #<STMX::TRANSACTIONAL-DIRECT-SLOT {2D9B58FE}> STMX:TRANSACTIONAL)) 7: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {D2BE7FC}> {D2BE7FC}> (#<STMX::TRANSACTIONAL-DIRECT-SLOT {2D9B58FE}>)) 8: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {7A80120F}> {7A80120F}> (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> STMX.UTIL::VALUE (#<STMX::TRANSACTIONAL-DIRECT-SLOT {2D9B58FE}>))) 9: (#<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION MOP:COMPUTE-EFFECTIVE-SLOT-DEFINITION {6F61B180}> #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> STMX.UTIL::VALUE (#<STMX::TRANSACTIONAL-DIRECT-SLOT {2D9B58FE}>)) 10: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {53BDAA43}> {53BDAA43}> STMX.UTIL::VALUE) 11: (MOP::STD-COMPUTE-SLOTS #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}>) 12: (#<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION MOP:COMPUTE-SLOTS {1125EE25}> #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}>) 13: (MOP::STD-FINALIZE-INHERITANCE #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}>) 14: (MOP:FINALIZE-INHERITANCE #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}>) 15: (MOP::MAYBE-FINALIZE-CLASS-SUBTREE #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}>) 16: (MOP::STD-AFTER-INITIALIZATION-FOR-CLASSES #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {1FBB.. 17: (APPLY #<FUNCTION #<STD-AFTER-INITIALIZATION-FOR-CLASSES {733841D0}> {733841D0}> #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> (:NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES ..)) 18: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {4C6FD921}> {4C6FD921}> #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {.. 19: (APPLY #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {4C6FD921}> {4C6FD921}> (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES ..)) 20: (#<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION INITIALIZE-INSTANCE {5F0C5228}> #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACT.. 21: (APPLY #<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION INITIALIZE-INSTANCE {5F0C5228}> #<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL {597DC690}> (:NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES ..)) 22: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {723E9D5D}> {723E9D5D}> #<STANDARD-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS {40AB239E}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {1.. 23: (APPLY #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {723E9D5D}> {723E9D5D}> (#<STANDARD-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS {40AB239E}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES ..)) 24: (#<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION MAKE-INSTANCE {2577139A}> #<STANDARD-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS {40AB239E}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-O.. 25: (APPLY #<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION MAKE-INSTANCE {2577139A}> #<STANDARD-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS {40AB239E}> :NAME STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTI.. 26: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {2E873D1E}> {2E873D1E}> NIL STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {1FBB3CF}>) :DIRECT-SLOTS ((:NAME STMX.UTIL::VALUE ..)) :M.. 27: (APPLY #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {2E873D1E}> {2E873D1E}> (NIL STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {1FBB3CF}>) :DIRECT-SLOTS ..)) 28: (#<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION MOP:ENSURE-CLASS-USING-CLASS {145D6FB6}> NIL STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {1FBB3CF}>) :DIRECT-SLOTS ((:NAME ... 29: (APPLY #<STANDARD-GENERIC-FUNCTION MOP:ENSURE-CLASS-USING-CLASS {145D6FB6}> NIL STMX.UTIL:TCELL (:DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {1FBB3CF}>) ..)) 30: (MOP:ENSURE-CLASS STMX.UTIL:TCELL :DIRECT-SUPERCLASSES (#<STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-CLASS STMX:TRANSACTIONAL-OBJECT {1FBB3CF}>) :DIRECT-SLOTS ((:NAME STMX.UTIL::VALUE :INITFORM STMX.UTIL::+EMPTY-TCELL+ ..)) .. 31: (#<COMPILED-FUNCTION #<FUNCTION (LAMBDA ()) {5BAF143A}> {5BAF143A}>) 32: (FUNCALL #<COMPILED-FUNCTION #<FUNCTION (LAMBDA ()) {5BAF143A}> {5BAF143A}>) 33: (SYSTEM:INIT-FASL :VERSION 43) 34: (SYSTEM::%LOAD #P"/home/max/.cache/common-lisp/abcl-1.9.0-fasl43-linux-x64/home/max/my/common-lisp/stmx/util/tcell.abcl" NIL NIL T :DEFAULT) 35: (LOAD #P"/home/max/.cache/common-lisp/abcl-1.9.0-fasl43-linux-x64/home/max/my/common-lisp/stmx/util/tcell.abcl") 36: (APPLY LOAD #P"/home/max/.cache/common-lisp/abcl-1.9.0-fasl43-linux-x64/home/max/my/common-lisp/stmx/util/tcell.abcl" NIL) 37: (#<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {69BB78BF}> {69BB78BF}>) 38: (UIOP/UTILITY:CALL-WITH-MUFFLED-CONDITIONS #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {69BB78BF}> {69BB78BF}> ("Overwriting already existing readtable ~S." #(#:FINALIZERS-OFF-WARNING :ASDF-FINALIZERS))) 39: (UIOP/LISP-BUILD:CALL-WITH-MUFFLED-LOADER-CONDITIONS #<FUNCTION #<FUNCTION {69BB78BF}> {69BB78BF}>) 40: (UIOP/LISP-BUILD:LOAD* #P"/home/max/.cache/common-lisp/abcl-1.9.0-fasl43-linux-x64/home/max/my/common-lisp/stmx/util/tcell.abcl") ; ... Any idea what could be the reason? The same code works with sbcl, and used to work also with abcl <= 1.7.1. Also, it's not clear to me how the TRANSACTIONAL slot in question can be unbound, as it has an initform: (defclass transactional-direct-slot (standard-direct-slot-definition) ((transactional :type boolean :initform t :initarg :transactional :accessor transactional-slot?)) (:documentation "The class for direct slots of transactional classes. [...])) Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestion. Massimiliano Ghilardi

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Which repo SVN or GIT?
by Blake McBride 30 Apr '22

30 Apr '22

Greetings, I am pretty sure we are keeping two parallel repos for ABCL, one in subversion and the other in GIT. I thought two things: 1. They were kept in sync 2. The subversion repo was preferred I recently compared the two repos and discovered that: 1. They are not in sync 2. The GIT repo has the latest changes Personally, I prefer subversion. However, I feel strongly that we should drop one of the repos so that this out-of-sync situation no longer arises. Thanks! Blake McBride

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Why is build using Java 11?
by Blake McBride 13 Apr '22

13 Apr '22

Greetings, I am building the latest SVN version of ABCL on a Linux box. Here is what I am seeing: $ java -version openjdk version "1.8.0_322" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_322-b06) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.322-b06, mixed mode) $ javac -version javac 1.8.0_322 $ env |grep JAVA $ ant [...] abcl.init: [echo] java.version: 11.0.14.1 [...] $ Why is the build using Java 11? Thanks! Blake McBride

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Interrupting repl in Slime
by Alan Ruttenberg 12 Apr '22

12 Apr '22

Hi folks, Maybe someone has a feel for how interrupts work in ABCL? Doing an interrupt in ABCL from Slime doesn't interrupt until the end of a function or sleep or wait is called. This means whenever I accidentally have a too long or infinite loop by mistake the only thing I can do is quit lisp and start over. This is probably THE most irritating problem I have with ABCL. It doesn't happen often but when it does it completely disrupts work. Slime handles an interrupt by calling interrupt-thread. Interrupt-thread saves the function and sets a flag. When the interrupted process next checks the flag it will call the interrupt function. At first I thought lisp wasn't checking for an interrupt often enough, but that's not the problem. If I compile (loop for i = 1) I get public final LispObject execute() { ; do { ; if (!Lisp.interrupted) { ; continue; ; } ; Lisp.handleInterrupt(); ; } while (true); ; } So why doesn't the interrupt work? Well it seems there are two paths to interrupt. One is via interrupt-thread. Here is the code that sets the flag. final synchronized void interrupt(LispObject function, LispObject args) { pending = new Cons(args, pending); pending = new Cons(function, pending); threadInterrupted = true; javaThread.interrupt(); } Note that it is setting thread.threadInterrupted rather than Lisp.interrupted. In fact, the only way to set Lisp.interrupted is via Lisp.setInterrupted() and the only function that calls that is ext:interrupt-lisp. Nothing calls ext:interrupt-lisp. So that nice check within the loop is checking for a signal that currently never arrives. The javathread.interrupt is only periodically detected by an explicit call or via an InterruptedException that Java will throw when the thread yields or via a check of thread.isInterrupted. The latter is checked in one place, inside a catch, which afaik isn't executed unless there's an error in the thread - it's the "Ignoring uncaught exception" path. Now, if I call ext:interrupt-lisp from the *inferior-lisp* a break comes up during the infinite loop and I can kill it! This is the desired behavior. The problem is, I can't figure out where to call (ext:interrupt-lisp) within slime. I tried to put it right after interrupt-thread when that is called in swank::queue-thread-interrupt, which is what is eventually called when you hit C-c in the repl. But that causes an error and kills the slime session. And emacs, for that matter, which needs to be force quit. I'm thinking that in the case of a control-c we should not use thread-interrupt but rather lisp interrupted. threadInterrupted is thread local and Lisp.interrupted is a global. So technically the control c might not go to the right thread, since all threads are checking the global. But in the situation where it's locked in an infinite loop, there's no other thread doing anything, so the right thing happens. In any case I think that's probably easy to fix by setting another volatile to the thread to be interrupted. In general one would have to worry about a race condition if there were several places that might call interrupt-lisp, but in this case it would only be called with an explicit Control-c and perhaps on a request to kill a thread from the slime threads buffer. It's an open question as to whether interrupt-thread should take advantage of this as well, but that would require more care to avoid a race condition. Any help on sorting this would be much appreciated. Thanks, Alan

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ABCL manual
by Jonathan L Cunningham 07 Apr '22

07 Apr '22

Hi, The link in the Bibliography [Rho09] appears to have moved, and gives a 403 error. This, similar but different, link appears to be correct: https://research.gold.ac.uk/id/eprint/2344/1/sequences-20070301.pdf Regards, Jonathan

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ABCL v1.8.0 | Hash table size is set to 11 despite :size being set to lower number
by Johnny Ruiz 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

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[CfPart] ELS 2022, 15th European Lisp Symposium, March 21-22, Porto.
by Didier Verna 10 Mar '22

10 Mar '22

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15th European Lisp Symposium Call for Participation March 21-22, 2022 FEUP, Porto, Portugal & Online In cooperation with ACM SIGPLAN https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2022 Sponsored by EPITA, Franz Inc., and SISCOG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Important News ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Full programme now online - Invited speakers below - Registrations are open Scope ~~~~~ The European Lisp Symposium is a premier forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, Clojure, Racket, ACL2, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, SKILL, Hy, Shen, Carp, Janet, uLisp, Picolisp, Gamelisp, TXR, and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The European Lisp Symposium invites high quality papers about novel research results, insights and lessons learned from practical applications, and educational perspectives. We also encourage submissions about known ideas as long as they are presented in a new setting and/or in a highly elegant way. Topics include but are not limited to: - context-, aspect-, domain-oriented and generative programming - macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - language design and implementation - language integration, inter-operation and deployment - development methodologies, support and environments - educational approaches and perspectives - experience reports and case studies Invited talks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Building SICMUtils, the Atelier of Abstractions -- Sam Ritchie SICMUtils is a Clojure library designed for interactive exploration of mathematical physics. It is simultaneously a work of persuasive writing, a collection of essays on functional pearls and computational ideas, a stable of workhorse functional abstractions, and a practical place to work and visualize algorithms and physical systems, on a server or in the browser. How do you build a library like this? This talk will go through the architecture of SICMUtils, based on many of the ideas of "additive programming" from Gerald Sussman and Chris Hanson's latest book, Software Design for Flexibility. We'll look at surprising examples of the system becoming easier to extend over time. Clojure's embrace of its host platform lets us use the best modern work in Javascript for visualization, while keeping the horsepower of our servers for real work. Lisp's particular elegance will shine throughout. Creating a Common Lisp Implementation -- Robert Strandh Being dissatisfied with the way current Common Lisp implementations are written, and with the duplication of system code between different implementations, we started the SICL project in 2008. The initial idea was to create modules that the creators of Common Lisp implementations could use to create a complete system from an initial minimal core. But this idea was unsatisfactory because it required each module to be written in a subset of Common Lisp. So instead, we decided to use the full language to implement these modules, effectively making them useless to an implementation using traditional bootstrapping techniques. We therefore decided to also create a new Common Lisp implementation (also named SICL), that could use those modules. A crucial element is a bootstrapping technique that can handle these modules. In this spirit, we have developed several modules, including an implementation of CLOS which is also an important element of bootstrapping. Lately, we have increased our level of ambition in that we want to extract those modules as separate (and separately maintained) repositories, which requires us to deal with code during bootstrapping that was not specifically written for SICL. In our talk, we describe this evolution of ambition, and its consequences to bootstrapping, in more detail. We also give an overview of several new techniques we created, some of which have been published (at ICL and ELS) and some of which have not. Finally, we discuss the future of the project, and other projects for which we imagine SICL to be a base. Lisp as Renaissance Workshop: A Lispy Tour through Mathematical Physics -- Sam Ritchie Lisp is an exquisite medium for the communication of computational ideas. From our most accurate observations of physical reality up through chemistry, biology, and cognition, the universe seems to be computing itself; modeling and simulating these systems in machines has led to incredible technological wealth. Deep principles and beautiful abstractions seem to drive these systems, but they have always been hard to discover; and we are floundering at the computational frontiers of intelligence, synthetic biology and control systems for our climate. The only way to push forward is to build powerful tools that can communicate and teach. This talk will take a tour through SICMUtils, a Lisp system designed as a workshop for conducting serious work in mathematical physics and sharing those explorations in a deeply interactive, multiplayer way. The library’s growth parallels our human scientific history; hopefully tools like this will help us write the next chapter. Programme Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Newton - EPITA Research Lab (LRDE), France Programme Committee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Philipp Meier, Nubank Ioanna M. Dimitriou H., Igalia Mikhail Raskin, Technical University of Munich Nick Levine, RavenPack Adrien Pommellet, LRDE, EPITA Marco Heisig, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen Alberto Riva, Bioinformatics Core, ICBR, University of Florida Marco Antoniotti, DISCo, Università degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca Nicolas Neuss, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen Christophe Rhodes, Google UK Irène Anne Durand, LaBRI, University of Bordeaux Ralf Moeller Breanndán Ó Nualláino, University of Amsterdam Marc Battyani, Fractal Concept Pascal Costanza, Intel Sky Hester, Private Consultant -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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[Extended Deadline] 15th European Lisp Symposium
by Didier Verna 24 Jan '22

24 Jan '22

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15th European Lisp Symposium Call for Papers March 21-22, 2022 FEUP, Porto, Portugal & Online In co-location with <Programming> https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2022 Sponsored by EPITA and Franz Inc. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Important Dates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Submission deadline ***EXTENDED***: January 30, 2022 - Author notification: February 21, 2022 - Final papers due: March 7, 2022 - Symposium: March 21-22, 2022 Scope ~~~~~ The European Lisp Symposium is a premier forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, Clojure, Racket, ACL2, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, SKILL, Hy, Shen, Carp, Janet, uLisp, Picolisp, Gamelisp, TXR, and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The European Lisp Symposium invites high quality papers about novel research results, insights and lessons learned from practical applications, and educational perspectives. We also encourage submissions about known ideas as long as they are presented in a new setting and/or in a highly elegant way. Topics include but are not limited to: - context-, aspect-, domain-oriented and generative programming - macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - language design and implementation - language integration, inter-operation and deployment - development methodologies, support and environments - educational approaches and perspectives - experience reports and case studies Technical Program ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We invite submissions in the following forms. * Papers: technical papers of up to 8 pages that describe original results or explain known ideas in new and elegant ways. * Demonstrations: abstracts of up to 4 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries, and applications. * Tutorials: abstracts of up to 4 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest for at least 90 minutes and up to 180 minutes. All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM Computing Classification System 2012 concepts and terms. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair, at the following link http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=els2022. Note: to help us with the review process please indicate the type of submission by entering either "paper", "demo", or "tutorial" in the Keywords field. Programme Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Newton - EPITA Research Lab (LRDE), France Programme Committee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Philipp Meier, Nubank Ioanna M. Dimitriou H., Igalia Mikhail Raskin, Technical University of Munich Nick Levine, RavenPack Adrien Pommellet, LRDE, EPITA Marco Heisig, FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg Alberto Riva, Bioinformatics Core, ICBR, University of Florida Marco Antoniotti, DISCo, Università degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca Nicolas Neuss, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen Christophe Rhodes, Google Irène Anne Durand, LaBRI, University of Bordeaux Ralf Moeller Breanndán Ó Nualláino, University of Amsterdam Marc Battyani, Fractal Concept Pascal Costanza, Intel -- Didier Verna <didier(a)elsaa.org> ELS Steering Committee

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[Last CfP] 15th European Lisp Symposium, March 21-22 2022, Porto
by Didier Verna 11 Jan '22

11 Jan '22

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15th European Lisp Symposium Call for Papers March 21-22, 2022 FEUP, Porto, Portugal & Online In co-location with <Programming> https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2022 Sponsored by EPITA and Franz Inc. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Important Dates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Submission deadline: January 23, 2022 - Author notification: February 21, 2022 - Final papers due: March 7, 2022 - Symposium: March 21-22, 2022 Scope ~~~~~ The European Lisp Symposium is a premier forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, Clojure, Racket, ACL2, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, SKILL, Hy, Shen, Carp, Janet, uLisp, Picolisp, Gamelisp, TXR, and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The European Lisp Symposium invites high quality papers about novel research results, insights and lessons learned from practical applications, and educational perspectives. We also encourage submissions about known ideas as long as they are presented in a new setting and/or in a highly elegant way. Topics include but are not limited to: - context-, aspect-, domain-oriented and generative programming - macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - language design and implementation - language integration, inter-operation and deployment - development methodologies, support and environments - educational approaches and perspectives - experience reports and case studies Technical Program ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We invite submissions in the following forms. * Papers: technical papers of up to 8 pages that describe original results or explain known ideas in new and elegant ways. * Demonstrations: abstracts of up to 4 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries, and applications. * Tutorials: abstracts of up to 4 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest for at least 90 minutes and up to 180 minutes. All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM Computing Classification System 2012 concepts and terms. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair, at the following link http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=els2021. Note: to help us with the review process please indicate the type of submission by entering either "paper", "demo", or "tutorial" in the Keywords field. Programme Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Newton - EPITA Research Lab, France Programme Committee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Philipp Meier, Nubank Ioanna M. Dimitriou H., Igalia Mikhail Raskin, Technical University of Munich Nick Levine, RavenPack Adrien Pommellet, EPITA Research Lab Marco Heisig, FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg Alberto Riva, Bioinformatics Core, ICBR, University of Florida Marco Antoniotti, DISCo, Università degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca Nicolas Neuss, Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen Christophe Rhodes, Google Irène Anne Durand, LaBRI University of Bordeaux Ralf Moeller Breanndán Ó Nualláin Marc Battyani, Fractal Concept Pascal Costanza, Intel, Belgium -- Didier Verna

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Considering resignation as maintainer
by Robert Goldman 10 Jan '22

10 Jan '22

I have discovered that Stas Bokuraev is continuing to refuse to update Edi packages to modern ASDF system-naming. This would not be bad in and of itself, because these are open source systems, and they can be forked. What *is* bad is that he has publicly stated that he is doing this hoping that the resulting warnings will break people's systems and thus cause them to get angry and complain to me about ASDF checking system names. What is even worse is that the CL community tacitly accepts this as normal behavior. I would like to see the CL open source community pause and consider what constitutes a healthy community. I don't believe that someone trying to break things in order to pressure a volunteer maintainer of infrastructure is something that a healthy community should accept. If the community prefers a more rough-and-tumble approach, I can accept that, but if so it's time for the community to find an ASDF maintainer who is more in harmony with the values it (at least implicitly) espouses.

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