On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Matt Lamari<matt.lamari@gmail.com> wrote:

What's the planned endgame for the system?  Is saved-memory-image remotely feasible?  Or a jar with coded that would create the image?  Or something else?

Disclaimer: I'm speaking for myself and not on behalf of abcl developers in general, since as far as I know this issue has not been discussed in detail and so no official position exists. I see two possible options to resolve the issue. One is to implement save-image using Java serialization. I made an attempt at this some time ago, but stopped for a number of reasons - the most prominent is that, as far as I can tell, abcl's compiler should not rely on temporary files as it does now, or serializing compiled functions is not feasible. There's interest in me and others to do this change to the compiler for other reasons too, but it's not a trivial change and so far it's not the most important issue, so it's not high priority. The other solution, maybe less optimal but much easier imho, is to expose the api for loading files from jars and integrate it with LOAD (that is, with Lisp pathnames), and maybe provide a nice function to package a bunch of compiled Lisp files (say, from a given directory) into a jar to be deployed together with abcl.jar. I haven't thought about this in depth so there might be conceptual problems, I don't know. But if it can be done, it's not hard to do. The two solutions are not mutually exclusive and could be both implemented. As far as I'm concerned, I'm currently concentrating on other things but in future I'd like to try both solutions, because I think abcl would greatly benefit from them. Cheers, Alessio

Alessio Stalla wrote:

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ABCL currently can not save a memory image, so you're stuck with loading compiled files (perhaps with asdf or similar, if it accepts the absence of source files). ABCL has the capability to load files from a jar archive, but I think it's internal machinery and not exposed through a public API, though I might be wrong on this point. However, loading files from a jar probably forces you to drop asdf and any other system definition facility and manually load files in the correct order.

hth, Alessio

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Matt Lamari<matt.lamari@gmail.com> wrote:

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What is the mechanism for converting source code or an in-memory image (or fragment thereof) into a deployable unit?  Just point me at a function name/document and I can take it from there. . . .

Thanks, Matt

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