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[asdf-devel] New ASDF 2.010
by Faré 29 Oct '10

29 Oct '10

I just release ASDF 2.010 (same as 2.146), and I'd like all CL implementation vendors to test it and include it on their platforms so one could universally (require :asdf). As compared to 2.009: * much faster and more ported recursive groveling through directories looking for .asd's (notably fixes issues with ABCL) * portability tweaks for CCL, SCL, CLISP * eagerly error out when trying to use : in portable relative pathname designator strings * have compile-file* heed :output-file keyword * be backward-compatible with client fasl's using ASDF symbols from the obsolete ASDF-UTILITIES package that existed in ASDF2 up till 2.005 * for those who care about internals, in a comment, explanation of do-first vs in-order-to Actively supported and tested by me (on Linux amd64): ccl clisp sbcl ecl allegro abcl scl Supported but untested by me: lispworks (lacking a license), allegromodern, cmucl, any of the previous on windows Known to have many issues: gcl (still largely broken in 2.010, and still doesn't pass all tests in 2.147.) Never replied to my contact attempts: corman These implementations include asdf2 in their release and you can (require :asdf): ccl sbcl ecl abcl scl cmucl These don't yet, but probably should: allegro lispworks clisp gcl [ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Be inconsistent — but don't do it all the time. — Unknown

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[asdf-devel] Feature-conditional components
by Faré 24 Oct '10

24 Oct '10

1- ASDF has no such mechanism yet. Many people have asked for it (at least nikodemus, manic12, and myself recently). 2- the feature feature was never working before I fixed and cerror'ed it, and only does conditional *dependency* on another component, that has to independently exist or conditionally exist, for which we have no non-ugly mechanism. 3- the :if-component-dep-fails mechanism may or may not be working well enough to do that right now, but man it's ugly, non-intuitive, non-documented, and gross even if it were documented. 4- the very structure of ASDF objects doesn't allow a clean way of expressing conditionally-included components, and this can't be added as an extension (at least, not unless ASDF is extended to provide a proper API, anyway). Doing anything more sophisticated than #+foo or :if-component-dep-fails is going to be "interesting" and require major work. 5- XCVB has such a mechanism, and I propose that if ASDF is to adopt non-trivial conditionals, we should import XCVB's mini-language for conditionals, if not the rest of it. 6- Hey - why not develop XCVB some more? Like, port it to your favorite platform? I'd need a bit of help to make standalone backends for Windows, including a committed hacker to port relevant parts of IOLib to Windows. [ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Invent a clever saying, and your name shall live forever. — Anonymous

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[asdf-devel] Error writing some output translation
by Mitch Berkson 18 Oct '10

18 Oct '10

I am encountering the error below when trying to load-system from directory d:/foo/: Error: Failed to MAKE-DIRECTORY file C:\Documents and Settings\mitch\Application Data\common-lisp\cache\lispworks-6.0.1-windows-x86\d\foo\d:\: The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.(123). I am able to load-system systems I have downloaded (e.g., lw-add-ons, cl-pdf) which are in a different directory (d:/lisp/). I have fooled around with a .conf file in the d:/foo/.config/common-lisp/asdf-output-translations.conf.d/ directory but that hasn't helped. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Mitch Berkson

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[asdf-devel] find-system
by Lou Vanek 18 Oct '10

18 Oct '10

I am totally confused with the asdf:find-system method. The symbol is exported but it isn't bound to a function, at least on my system. About 10 different packages call asdf:find-system but it cannot be called because it isn't bound. Asdf:find-system IS declared and defined and exported in asdf.lisp version 2.009, but when a package tries to call it I get an error. Yet I can see it's defined in asdf.lisp as: (defmethod find-system (name &optional (error-p t)) (find-system (coerce-name name) error-p)) (defmethod find-system ((name string) &optional (error-p t)) (catch 'find-system ... CL-USER> (apropos "find-system") ASDF:FIND-SYSTEM ASDF::FIND-SYSTEM-FALLBACK, Def: FUNCTION ; No value CL-USER> (asdf::find-system :usocket) ; Evaluation aborted on #<CCL::UNDEFINED-FUNCTION-CALL #x18634CFE>. CL-USER> asdf::*asdf-version* "2.009" CL-USER> (lisp-implementation-type) "Clozure Common Lisp" CL-USER> (lisp-implementation-version) "Version 1.6-dev-r14367M-trunk (LinuxX8632)" What am I missing? Thanks, Lou Vanek

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[asdf-devel] How to have fasls go to a fasl directory under the source directory?
by Mitch Berkson 17 Oct '10

17 Oct '10

Is there a general way to have the fasls for files in a source directory default to being written to a fasl subdirectory of the source directory? So if I have the source in d:/lisp/lw-add-ons, I'd like the fasls to be written to d:/lisp/lw-add-ons. I have done this by adding a d:/lisp/.config/common-lisp/asdf-output-translations.conf.d/lw-add-ons-asdf.conf file containing:("d:/lisp/lw-add-ons/" "d:/lisp/lw-add-ons/fasl/") But is there a way to make this the default behavior so that d:/lisp/other-system/ will have their fasls written to d:/lisp/other-system/fasl? Alternatively, could they be written to a central fasl directory but in a sub-directory named for the package? So d:/lisp/fasl/other-system/? This is on Win XP. Thanks for any help. Mitch Berkson

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[asdf-devel] What do I win?
by Nikodemus Siivola 15 Oct '10

15 Oct '10

Congratulations, you're the first ever user of FEATURE dependencies! Please contact the asdf-devel mailing-list. [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR] Cheers, -- Nikodemus

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[asdf-devel] patch for the manual to add :if-component-dep-fails to the grammar
by Robert P. Goldman 15 Oct '10

15 Oct '10

If someone with the commit bit sees this, will you please skim it and push it? My git repo is in some horrible state following on my last push where it steadfastly resists all of my attempts to turn this into a fast-forward (pushable) patch. thanks, r

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[asdf-devel] asdf-utilities
by Lou Vanek 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Hi, I'm setting up a new lisp system on a new debian lenny machine and one of the lisp libraries I'm trying to load is asking to load the asdf-utilities package, but this package doesn't exist. My Google-fu can't find it either. Not sure what I'm missing. I'm using the latest version of openmcl/clozure/ccl from trunk. The asdf version that loads is 2.009. I believe asdf is included with ccl. Appreciate any ideas. Thanks, Lou Vanek P.S. I may not be able to respond immediately to any response since my internet connection currently depends on wardriving until I find something unsecured.

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[asdf-devel] documentation about ASDF configuration
by Attila Lendvai 13 Oct '10

13 Oct '10

dear list, the issue of ASDF configuration came up on sbcl-devel. it's already documented at: http://common-lisp.net/project/asdf/asdf.html#Configuring-ASDF i've found it too verbose compared to what it's all about, or at least too much written in the form of prose. as if it was written for people who first meet the concept of system definitions and library loading itself. imho, the usefulness of a documentation is determined by two things: - how quickly readers find an answer for a specific question - how much the documentation is structured so that it helps reading a topic in different levels of detail. like: - getting a bird's view (e.g. only reading the sub-chapter titles) - reading the first paragraph of each chapter - reading a whole chapter of interest also note that the readers of the ASDF documentation (and ASDF users) are 90+% experienced programmers. so, i suggest to seriously shorten the configuration chapter, or to split the documentation into a verbose one for newcomers, and a highly structured one for people who have an idea what they are dealing with, just don't know which knob to turn in which direction. if we don't split, then at least focus on the latter. these are based on my personal experience reading the doc. and a specific suggestion: the inherit-configuration feature was not obvious and i misunderstood it. the two possible interpretation: - insert here the rest of what is defined in the standard configuration files (the right one) - insert here the current value of the source-registry. IOW, let me append or prefix some configuration entries (the way i misunderstood it) but ASDF2 is definitely a great improvement, thanks a whole lot for the work! -- attila ps: i know i should provide patches instead, so i quickly shut up now because i don't know ASDF enough to confidently edit its documentation.

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[asdf-devel] asdf-utilities
by Lou Vanek 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

Hi, I'm setting up a new lisp system on a new debian lenny machine and one of the lisp libraries I'm trying to load is asking to load the asdf-utilities package, but this package doesn't exist. Was this included with ASDF1 and not ASDF2? If so, how do people work around those libraries that require asdf-utilities? I'm using the latest version of openmcl/clozure/ccl from trunk. The asdf version that loads is 2.009. I believe asdf is included with ccl. Appreciate any ideas. Thanks, Lou Vanek

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