Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll juanjose.garciaripoll@googlemail.com writes:
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Faré fahree@gmail.com wrote:
PS: after 2.0 is out, I'd like to resign from ASDF maintainership, to focus on XCVB (help welcome on that, too). Is anyone volunteering to replace me on ASDF?
After thinking about it, I am willing to step up as a possible replacement.
Dear Juanjo,
please do so. Following this mailing list and c.l.l., I have the impression that in the recent months you have put a lot of time and thought into ASDF (probably second to Fare whom I want to thank for his work). I could imagine that as the maintainer you might even save some work.
The reasons why I would go that far are
- My own personal interest in ASDF working properly with ECL and other implementation philosophies.
- My belief that ASDF can and should be improved along the directions I have repeatedly mentioned: declarative system files, simpler
user interface for common tasks (testing, building, packing, installing...).
- My will to make it simpler to systematically download, build and test existing software with different implementations [1]
Looks good.
Reasons why I am still doubting:
- I have the feeling my points of view do not find a strong resonance here.
My uses of ASDF are simple up to now, i.e. also DEFSYSTEM worked for me sufficiently well. For me, the main objective of such a system is that it is as standard as possible and working with every implementation out of the box.
Ingredients needed
- Help.
Unfortunately, my help would consist solely of trying out also newer additions to ASDF, e.g. automated testing.
- Dialogue and feedback here: developers, implementors and users.
- A short term roadmap and an agreement on long term goals.
- A test system that works on the asdf-devel branch. I can provide computational power and several operating systems if somebody helps
me identifying the perfect list of software and setting it up -- http://ecls.sourceforge.net/logs.html
- Involvement from the community at large, perhaps with periodic calls for evaluation at c.l.l and other forums, setting up a wiki for
wish lists and collaboration with particular efforts (libcl, clbuild, lisp in a box?)
- Connecting the test system with an enlarged version of the ASDF analyzer, to monitor evolution of software in real time and how and
whether ASDF features get widely accepted.
All this can not be done without help. I am willing to learn and to listen to everybody's point of views, but I would expect the same, as well as understanding of my verbosity, my lack of communication skills and my occasional emotional outbursts.
Nicolas