On 4/26/11 Apr 26 -1:06 PM, Faré wrote:
OK. Should I turn verbose off by default, or should I make verbose less verbose, or introduce several degrees of verbosity?
I would be pretty happy if the old behavior was reinstated, and nothing else was changed.
OK. Reverted in 2.014.12, with some additional changes.
Was there a specific problem that prompted the change in behavior?
I sometimes want to debug a ASDF build, or find out what file a set of style-warnings come from, etc. At ITA we use ancillary methods that call explain. I wanted to have something similar part of ASDF itself. I guess however, that the fact that ASDF is "verbose" by default, makes that more annoying than helpful.
What about making ASDF *not* verbose by default? Does anyone simultaneously care to have ASDF print the little it currently prints yet not the progress report I was printing?
I have never found the ASDF message printing burdensome. But then, I don't ever build as many systems at once as Xach does.
Is there some way to tell if this is other than a quicklisp-specific problem? If it is quicklisp-specific, could we just support a special configuration for QL that doesn't hide information from people using ASDF in a more limited environment? QL is almost defined as one where you don't expect the user to be able to debug parent systems. I'm a lot more familiar with /needing/ to debug parent systems!
Best, r