On 2/26/10 Feb 26 -10:46 AM, David McClain wrote:
Hi Guys,
I think I'm beginning to glean your sense of confusion here. Let me just have you try loading ASDF.lisp in a freshly booted LW6 image and see for yourselves.
For those of us who aren't lispworks users, it would help if you were to give us a transcript with error messages and backtrace.
I just went to the lispworks.com website, and LW version 6 is not available in a free (personal) edition.
So we really need you to send us (or better yet, post into a launchpad ticket) such a transcript.
I will try pulling LW 5.1, but if that isn't going to show the bug, I'd like to save myself the trouble.
The ASDF.lisp that I am using was take off the web last night,
;;; -- LICENSE START ;;; (This is the MIT / X Consortium license as taken from ;;; http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.html on or about ;;; Monday; July 13, 2009)
For APPENDF and GET-ENV, if I don't conditionalize to *not* export those symbols from your list of exports, then I get the error message:
"Redefining xxx visible from Lispworks"
The same message appears once APPENDF and GET-ENV have been dealt with, regarding LOAD-SYSTEM, COMPILE-SYSTEM, and DEFSYSTEM. In those cases, however, you really want your own definitions to be in effect, and not just inherit behavior that already exists from Lispworks.
What can I say here? The LW6 system behaves the way it does, right or wrong, and my changes seemed to be the least needed to get things rolling again.
- DM
On Feb 26, 2010, at 08:17 AM, Robert Goldman wrote:
On 2/26/10 Feb 26 -9:00 AM, David McClain wrote:
No, I take a stock LW6 system and want to load up the ASDF package as soon as possible, so that I can then use ASDF to load in systems. When I take a look at the PACKAGE-USE-LIST of CL-USER, it shows COMMON-LISP, HARLEQUIN-COMMON-LISP, and LISPWORKS.
Have a look at the very front of the asdf.lisp file --- it places itself into package :CL-USER. So we are screwed up from the get go.
All I did was conditionalilze exports of two symbols that were already exported from another package and which performed identical functionality, and then I added a section to the rather elaborate package construction kit for ASDF to permit the declaration of some shadowed symbols. Simple. Effective. It works.
Faré's right. There's something mysterious here. We are only momentarily in CL-USER, and only while we construct (or modify) the ASDF package. AFAICT the ASDF package modification/creation code only manipulates uninterned symbols (if it doesn't, that's a bug), so there's no way it should be messing up the CL-USER package.
Will you please clarify?
thanks, r
- DM
On Feb 26, 2010, at 07:31 AM, Faré wrote:
I don't understand. Do you mean that there is a problem when you (load "asdf") itself, or are you trying to (use-package :asdf) from cl-user? The latter is probably a bad idea, and wasn't supported so far (so far I know).
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2010/2/26 David McClain dbm@refined-audiometrics.com:
... rather, in package :CL-USER, not :LW-USER. But apparently, LISPWORKS is automatically being used in CL-USER...
- DM
On Feb 26, 2010, at 01:13 AM, Chun Tian (binghe) wrote:
Hi, David
I don't think it's necessary to make ASDF and LISPWORKS two packages live together. What you met can only happen when you try to defined a package which use above two packages at the same time:
(defpackage xxx (:use :cl :asdf :lispworks))
I don't think you have any good reason to use such a package.
Regards,
Chun Tian (binghe)
在 2010-2-26，15:44， David McClain 写道：
> Hi, > > I just installed the latest available source for ASDF and had to make a few minor changes to the way the ASDF Package was being defined, for compatibility with Lispworks 6.0: (changes highlighted in red -- if you can see them) > > ... > > (ensure-shadow (package symbols) > (shadow symbols package)) > > (ensure-package (name &key nicknames use export unintern shadow) > (let* ((p (ensure-exists name nicknames))) > (ensure-use p use) > (ensure-unintern p unintern) > > (ensure-shadow p shadow) > > (ensure-export p export) > p))) > (ensure-package > ':asdf-utilities > :nicknames '(#:asdf-extensions) > :use '(#:common-lisp) > :export > '(#:absolute-pathname-p > #:aif > > #-:LISPWORKS #:appendf > > #:asdf-message > #:coerce-name > #:directory-pathname-p > #:ends-with > #:ensure-directory-pathname > > #-:LISPWORKS #:getenv > > #:get-uid > #:length=n-p > #:make-collector > #:pathname-directory-pathname > #:pathname-sans-name+type ;; deprecated. Use pathname-directory-pathname > #:read-file-forms > #:remove-keys > #:remove-keyword > #:resolve-symlinks > #:split > #:component-name-to-pathname-components > #:system-registered-p > #:truenamize)) > (ensure-package > ':asdf > :use '(:common-lisp :asdf-utilities) > :unintern '(#:*asdf-revision*) > > :shadow #+:LISPWORKS '(#:load-system > #:compile-system > #:defsystem) > #-:LISPWORKS '() > > :export > '(#:defsystem #:oos #:operate #:find-system #:run-shell-command > #:system-definition-pathname #:find-component ; miscellaneous > #:compile-system #:load-system #:test-system > #:compile-op #:load-op #:load-source-op
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