I hadn't tested the minimakefile branch with quicklisp, so of course it wasn't working. Fixed. All you need to bootstrap the asdf-tools is a recent quicklisp (and possibly removing antique cl-ppcre packages from debian that might take precedence).
I just realized that with quicklisp, asdf:load-system seems to load already-installed quicklisp packages, but not install new ones, for which you need ql:quickload. Xach, is that on purpose?
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Hi Faré,
do you think it is now obsolete to create a test git repo which contains the dependencies as git subtrees?
There is probably a small value in having a repo with versions of the dependencies which are known to work. But I'm not sure about the trade-off of having an additional repo.
Sorry that I didn't get around creating that repo earlier but I will have some time during the next week and could do so, if deemed necessary.
Cheers
Kambiz
On 2014-07-20 03:01 CEST, Faré fahree@gmail.com wrote:
I hadn't tested the minimakefile branch with quicklisp, so of course it wasn't working. Fixed. All you need to bootstrap the asdf-tools is a recent quicklisp (and possibly removing antique cl-ppcre packages from debian that might take precedence).
I just realized that with quicklisp, asdf:load-system seems to load already-installed quicklisp packages, but not install new ones, for which you need ql:quickload. Xach, is that on purpose?
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Dear Kambiz,
do you think it is now obsolete to create a test git repo which contains the dependencies as git subtrees?
You should ask Robert -- he's the one who's to decide, these days.
Now that the minimakefile branch is *tested* to work with quicklisp correctly, I see *less* need for that. But if that's the tipping point for Robert to merge the branch in master, then it's important.
There is probably a small value in having a repo with versions of the dependencies which are known to work. But I'm not sure about the trade-off of having an additional repo.
Indeed. I also don't know exactly how to sync that repo to the asdf repo: have asdf.git be one of the subtrees? Is there like with subversion the notion of pinned vs non-pinned externals?
Sorry that I didn't get around creating that repo earlier but I will have some time during the next week and could do so, if deemed necessary.
No problem. We're all busy.
Regards,
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Kambiz Darabi wrote:
Hi Faré,
do you think it is now obsolete to create a test git repo which contains the dependencies as git subtrees?
There is probably a small value in having a repo with versions of the dependencies which are known to work. But I'm not sure about the trade-off of having an additional repo.
Sorry that I didn't get around creating that repo earlier but I will have some time during the next week and could do so, if deemed necessary.
Dear Kambiz,
Sorry to have taken so long to get back to you.
No, I do not think it would be unreasonable to have a git repository with submodules for the minimakefile dependencies.
I don't regularly use quicklisp, and I have stubbed my toes several times trying to get the current (pre minimakefile) build infrastructure to work -- or to keep working, as one or the other support libraries changes and requires new versions of dependencies, etc.
I would not like ASDF development to rely on the Quicklisp distribution staying in sync. We can't rely on Xach to provide support for these tools -- it's not part of the Quicklisp charter. The QL charter is only to make a good-faith attempt to provide a consistent set of lisp libraries.
I'm afraid I haven't really kept abreast of progress on git submodules, so I don't know the current state of the art.
Anything you could do in this direction would be very welcome.
Best, r
Cheers
Kambiz
On 2014-07-20 03:01 CEST, Faré fahree@gmail.com wrote:
I hadn't tested the minimakefile branch with quicklisp, so of course it wasn't working. Fixed. All you need to bootstrap the asdf-tools is a recent quicklisp (and possibly removing antique cl-ppcre packages from debian that might take precedence).
I just realized that with quicklisp, asdf:load-system seems to load already-installed quicklisp packages, but not install new ones, for which you need ql:quickload. Xach, is that on purpose?
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