Dear Daniel,
if you're willing to fork ASDF over make-build, would putting a make-build compatibility function back in ASDF make you adopt the upstream version again? I have an implementation for it at the end of https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/merge_requests/34 but I'd need you to provide some more test case (a simple one exists somewhere in some old version in git).
There were many fixes in ASDF 3.2 and 3.3, including ECL-specific fixes, compared to the 3.1.7 from which you forked, and forking is just more work for both you and us.
—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org Social peace will come when the socialists will love the poor more than they hate the rich. — Not Golda Meir
Dear Faré,
On 21.07.2017 03:11, Faré wrote:
Dear Daniel,
if you're willing to fork ASDF over make-build, would putting a make-build compatibility function back in ASDF make you adopt the upstream version again? I have an implementation for it at the end of https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/merge_requests/34 but I'd need you to provide some more test case (a simple one exists somewhere in some old version in git).
Removing existing (and used) functionality from ASDF was only a trigger to stop updating it. I understand that you want to make it all-in-one solution for building, packaging, installing and loading systems with other very cool features at some point and I root for that. I don't think though that ever-growing ASDF is a good pick for a contrib. I don't want to bundle big monoliths with ECL, especially that user is free install his own version of it[1].
ASDF 3.x branch has changed a lot of things (breaking some working systems) and I expect ASDF 4.x to break some more. I'm 100% positive that it's because these systems weren't perfect, but I think that software written today should simply work in 20 years (like old Common Lisp programs – Metering for instance). This sole reason is enough, to stick to what is there now.
There were many fixes in ASDF 3.2 and 3.3, including ECL-specific fixes, compared to the 3.1.7 from which you forked, and forking is just more work for both you and us.
Don't get me wrong – I haven't started a fork – I don't have time for such waste of effort. I've tried to contribute and suggest some concerns of mine, which didn't meet acceptance (what is fine) – so I cloned the repository and backported some important fixes related to ECL. That's all, I'm not going to extend it or anything.
As a software on its own terms ASDF should be installed by user. That would break too much things though, so I ship the last 3.1.7 commit with some additional fixes.
—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org Social peace will come when the socialists will love the poor more than they hate the rich. — Not Golda Meir
Best regards, Daniel
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Daniel Kochmański -
Faré