November 2006 - cdr-devel - mailman3.common-lisp.net

[cdr-devel] CDR announcements / mailing lists
by Pascal Costanza 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

Hi everyone, I have posted the recent two announcements about prolongation of CDRs to all three CDR-related mailing lists. We don't have the intention to post such and similar announcements to all three lists in the future. I have only done this because I assume that currently, people may not be signed up to the appropriate mailing lists, especially because cdr-discuss has only been a recent addition. In the future, we will restrict announcements to cdr-announce exclusively. As advertised, cdr-discuss is for discussion about specific CDRs, and cdr-devel is for discussion about CDR itself. There may be some overlap between cdr-discuss and cdr-devel when it comes to the CDR document describing the CDR process, but I guess this will pose no serious problems. Cheers, Pascal -- Pascal Costanza, mailto:pc@p-cos.net, http://p-cos.net Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Programming Technology Lab Pleinlaan 2, B-1050 Brussel, Belgium

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[cdr-devel] Initial period for CDR 2 prolonged.
by Pascal Costanza 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

Since the cdr-discuss mailing list is only a few days old, and on request by the author, we have prolonged the initial period before finalization of CDR 2 "A generic hash table interface specification for Common Lisp" by Ingvar Mattsson until January 15, 2007. Ingvar Mattsson welcomes discussions about this CDR at cdr-discuss to which he is subscribed himself. Please mention CDR 2 in the subject line in your postings about this CDR. Pascal -- Pascal Costanza, mailto:pc@p-cos.net, http://p-cos.net Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Programming Technology Lab Pleinlaan 2, B-1050 Brussel, Belgium

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[cdr-devel] Initial period for CDR 3 prolonged.
by Pascal Costanza 21 Nov '06

21 Nov '06

Since the cdr-discuss mailing list is only a few days old, and on request by the author, we have prolonged the initial period before finalization of CDR 3 "Revisiting CONCATENATE-SEQUENCE" by Christophe Rhodes until January 15, 2007. Christophe Rhodes welcomes discussions about this CDR at cdr-discuss to which he is subscribed himself. Please mention CDR 3 in the subject line in your postings about this CDR. Pascal -- Pascal Costanza, mailto:pc@p-cos.net, http://p-cos.net Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Programming Technology Lab Pleinlaan 2, B-1050 Brussel, Belgium

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[cdr-devel] Some changes to the Common Lisp Document Repository.
by Pascal Costanza 19 Nov '06

19 Nov '06

Hello everybody, Based on the constructive feedback we have got on the CDR process so far, we have made some changes to CDR as follows. + First, due to the fact that the CDR process has been described as CDR 0 which has already been finalized, strictly speaking we aren't allowed to make changes to CDR anymore. We have solved this by resubmitting the CDR process itself as CDR 4. You can find the new version at http://cdr.eurolisp.org/document/4/ together with the changes compared to CDR 0 (which are also described below). Since we expect more suggestions for improvement in the near future, we use an exceptionally long initial period for CDR 4 until November 1, 2007. This allows us to make changes as we go along. At the same time, the CDR process in use will already be CDR 4. This means that the CDR process for submitted CDRs until then will be somewhat unstable, but we think that this gives us the advantage of being able to experiment a little such that the final result will hopefully be a better tested process. Consider this equivalent to the bootstrapping of a metacircular software architecture, or to the development of any new piece of software for that matter, where you have to test and change things as you go as well. ;) + We have added more details about submission of accompanying material, especially with regard to licenses that give us the right to publish it at the CDR website and related publications. We forgot about this issue in CDR 0. + We have added a section where we ask authors and submitters to provide rationales for changes they have made during the initial period. From now on, we also intend to add archives of previous versions of a CDR for better traceability of such changes. + We have added a mailing list cdr-discuss - see http://common- lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cdr-discuss for the mailing list page. This mailing list is supposed to be used for discussions about specific CDRs. This is especially useful when CDRs are in their initial period, but may also be useful afterwards. The already existing cdr-devel is purely for discussions about issues related to CDR itself (that go beyond the scope of what is described in CDR 0 and CDR 4). We hope that these changes address the suggestions we have got so far. Best, Pascal -- Pascal Costanza, mailto:pc@p-cos.net, http://p-cos.net Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Programming Technology Lab Pleinlaan 2, B-1050 Brussel, Belgium

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[cdr-devel] Re: [cdr-announce] CDR 2 updated
by Christophe Rhodes 11 Nov '06

11 Nov '06

Pascal Costanza <pc(a)p-cos.net> writes: > Ingvar Mattsson has submitted a new version of CDR 2 which is now > available at http://cdr.eurolisp.org/document/2/ I know that this isn't in the original contract, but I'd really like it if previous, superseded versions of CDRs were available, ideally with some description of why a change was made. Would there be scope in the CDR process to either encourage or enforce this, and is it technically feasible to make such earlier versions accessible? (so for example <http://cdr.eurolisp.org/document/2/newest/> is the same as <http://cdr.eurolisp.org/document/2/>, while there would also be <http://cdr.eurolisp.org/document/2/v1> in this case.) Cheers, Christophe

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[cdr-devel] Mailing lists, document licences
by Nikodemus Siivola 10 Nov '06

10 Nov '06

First of all, congratulations on CDR getting some traction! Secondly, what's the charter of the cdr-devel list? Is it only for "talking about the CDR process", or are existing CDRs a proper topic too? If not, I propose a separate list cdr-talk, for which existing CDRs are on topic, and where the subject line should carry a [CDR N] header to indicate which CDR is addressed. (Leaving the cdr-devel for meta-discussions on the process and whatnot.) Also, can we get the lists (including the archives) on Gmane, please? The subscription form is here: http://gmane.org/subscribe.php Finally, have you considered providing a liberal boilerplate licence (eg. CC attribution only, or 1-clause MIT) that CDR authors could use should they want to? I am cogitant of the fact that such a licence may not be appropriate for all CDRs, but for those for which it is, it would be nice to have a single default choise to cut down on possible future ambiguiety. Cheers, -- Nikodemus Schemer: "Buddha is small, clean, and serious." Lispnik: "Buddha is big, has hairy armpits, and laughs."

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