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Re: [CDR Devel] New CDR site online
by Marco Antoniotti 21 Jan '22

21 Jan '22

No. There is no bug tracker active. But I see that this is a dead link (cdr.eurolisp.org) in the old document. I suspect there are more such references around. Marco BTW. We can use the cdr-devel mailing list (I cc:ed it now). Please check that it is actually working... On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 7:30 PM Michał "phoe" Herda <phoe(a)disroot.org> wrote: > Is there a bugtracker for the CDR website? I got an example comment which > says: > > https://cdr.common-lisp.dev/document/14/CDR-features.htm makes reference > to http://cdr.eurolisp.org/ which does not exist currently. > BR > ~phoe > > On 21.01.2022 19:14, Marco Antoniotti wrote: > > Sounds good, thanks! > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 7:14 PM Michał "phoe" Herda <phoe(a)disroot.org> > wrote: > >> Thanks for setting this up. I'll read it this weekend and figure out if >> there is anything about the process that I do not understand. >> >> ~phoe >> On 21.01.2022 19:12, Marco Antoniotti wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> First of all, thank you all for accepting to become CDR editors. >> >> As of now, the new site is available at https://cdr.common-lisp.dev >> It is an old style site, but it has the advantage of being, IMHO, simple >> (plus it has a color style reminiscent of an old copy of CLtL2 :) ). >> >> The mailing lists should also work now. >> >> I am waiting for the CLNET folks to give me ownership of the repo so that >> I can add you as ... editors. >> >> I will now send a message on the mailing list and other channels. >> >> Of course, I do not expect a flood of new CDRs coming in. Or maybe yes; >> who knows. >> >> All the best >> >> Marco >> >> -- >> Marco Antoniotti, Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 >> 79 01 >> DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it >> Viale Sarca 336 >> I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY >> >> > > -- > Marco Antoniotti, Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 > 79 01 > DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it > Viale Sarca 336 > I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY > > -- Marco Antoniotti, Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01 DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it Viale Sarca 336 I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY

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Test 2
by Marco Antoniotti 04 Jan '22

04 Jan '22

Please ignore -- Marco Antoniotti, Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01 DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it Viale Sarca 336 I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY

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A new CDR proposed: CDR packaging
by Michael Raskin 17 Nov '19

17 Nov '19

Hello After some preliminary discussions, I want to submit a CDR describing interaction between CDR implementations and Lisp packages. The text version (which is currently the only one, and therefore the definitive one) is attached. PS. Is there anything I could do to make sure the mailing list links at the bottom of the CDR webpage lead to the mailing list pages? Michael Raskin

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Discoverability of CDR implementations (pre-submission discussion)
by Michael Raskin 21 Jun '19

21 Jun '19

Hello I was told that it might be better to have a separate document about interaction of CDRs and packages. I think as the problem with packages for CDR-defined symbols is about discoverability and probing, it is a good idea to also provide some functionality for probing for available but not loaded CDR implementations. The draft is currently available at: https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/mraskin/cdr-walkability/blob/master/cdr-pack… It is also attached as a text file to this message All feedback is of course very welcome. Thank you, goodbye Michael Raskin

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Links to CDR mailing lists
by Michael Raskin 20 Apr '19

20 Apr '19

Hello. I am looking into the situation around CDRs (and going to try to use the existing name/number space for some portability efforts). I have two questions about the links to the mailing lists on the https://common-lisp.net/project/cdr/ page. 1. I think the links should go to https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/cdr-announce https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/cdr-devel https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/cdr-discuss 2. Is CDR-Discuss also the list to discuss specific CDR proposals and drafts? I guess I also have a process-related question: do I understand correctly that negotiating a longer (maximum) initial period is compatible with declaring a condition for ending it before the negotiated maximum (but after 6 weeks after initial proposal)? Thank you, goodbye Michael Raskin

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[CDR-devel] An idea about CDRs
by Antoniotti Marco 06 Apr '14

06 Apr '14

Dear all, looking forward to ELS and ILC I have an idea that I’d like to put forward. Up to now, the site has collected either “basic documents” like the MOP one, or proposals that address issues that an individual (e.g., you-know-who :) ) felt interesting or important to write up. I think that it would be useful for CDR to publish simple “calls” for specifications. E.g., it would be nice for a “summary” multi-processing interface to be written up. The same for “networking”. Therefore I submit that CDR (editors) also published “Calls for specifications”, publicizing them periodically on the usual places, in the hope that somebody either picks up the task. Comments? -- Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01 DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://bimib.disco.unimib.it Viale Sarca 336 I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY Please note that I am not checking my Spam-box anymore. Please do not forward this email without asking me first.

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[cdr-devel] Looking for CDR volunteers
by Pascal Costanza 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

I wish to resign from my activities as the main maintainer of the Common Lisp Document Repository (CDR - http://cdr.europlisp.org). Although Arthur Lemmens, Edi Weitz, and Marc Battyani have supported the effort throughout CDR's existence, for which I'm very grateful, the main work rested on my shoulders. CDR had some noticeable impact in the seven years of its existence, but it may benefit from some new ideas and a fresh perspective. Since Arthur, Edi, and/or Marc do not want to take over the day-to-day activities for maintaining CDR, this effectively means that we are looking for volunteers to take over its maintenance. I would like to ensure that CDR doesn't become unmaintained, so I will keep on running things for as long as necessary. Feel free to ask any questions, either publicly, or privately to me directly, or via editors(a)cdr.eurolisp.org. Thanks, Pascal -- Pascal Costanza The views expressed in this email are my own, and not those of my employer.

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[cdr-devel] CDR Meeting in Madrid
by Nick Levine 04 Jun '13

04 Jun '13

An audio recording of this session is here: http://www.nicklevine.org/els2013/ - nick

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[cdr-devel] CDR follow ups...
by Pascal Costanza 06 May '12

06 May '12

Hi, At ELS'12 in Zadar there was a brief discussion about how we could make the CDR process more active. One observation was that there is not enough follow up on CDRs. Especially two things were mentioned: (a) It is not easy to figure out which CL implementations implement which CDRs. (b) It is not easy to figure out which CDR is implemented in a running CL system. About (a): I don't think the CDR website should maintain a list of implemented CDRs. This would increase the maintenance overhead of CDR, and would be detrimental to the goal of CDR being a strictly light-weight process. However, what could be done is to add a page to CLiki, for example, where volunteers could add the necessary information. What do you guys think? Is CLiki a good place for this? There is a chance that this could get out of sync with what implementations actually do, but this should still be easier to maintain than putting such information on the CDR website… About (b): A suggestion was that CDRs could be represented as entries in *features* (so :cdr-1, :cdr-2, :cdr-3, etc.). This would be the most general form of providing something that can be tested, because it can even be tested at compile time. Does that make sense? Should this be written up as a CDR of its own? Pascal -- Pascal Costanza

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[cdr-devel] [ELS 2012] European Lisp Symposium 2012, Zadar, Croatia; call for papers
by Marco Antoniotti 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

Apologies for the multiple postings.... ================================================================ European Lisp Symposium 2012, Zadar, Croatia, April 30th - May 1st, 2012 http://european-lisp-symposium.org The purpose of the European Lisp Symposium is to provide a forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp and Lisp-inspired dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, Clojure, ACL2, ECMAScript, Racket, SKILL, and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The main theme of the 2012 European Lisp Conference is "Interoperabilty: Systems, Libraries, Workflows". Lisp based and functional-languages based systems have grown a variety of solutions to become more and more integrated with the wider world of Information and Communication Technologies in current use. There are several dimensions to the scope of the solutions proposed, ranging from "embedding" of interpreters in C-based systems, to the development of abstractions levels that facilitate the expression of complex context dependent tasks, to the construction of exchange formats handling libraries, to the construction of theorem-provers for the "Semantic Web". The European Lisp Symposium 2012 solicits the submission of papers with this specific theme in mind, alongside the more traditional tracks which have appeared in the past editions. We invite submissions in the following forms: Papers: Technical papers of up to 15 pages that describe original results or explain known ideas in new and elegant ways. Demonstrations: Abstracts of up to 4 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries, and applications. Tutorials: Abstracts of up to 4 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest for at least 90 minutes and up to 180 minutes. Lightning talks: Abstracts of up to one page for talks to last for no more than 5 minutes. All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM classification categories and terms. For more information on the submission guidelines and the ACM keywords, see: http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates and http://www.acm.org/about/class/1998. Important dates: Jan 31st 2012: submission deadline Feb 21st 2012: acceptance results April 30th, 2012 Conference opens Program Commitee. Chair: Marco Antoniotti, Università degli Studi di Milano Bicocca, Milan, ITALY Local organizers: • Damir Ćavar, Eastern Michigan University • Franjo Pehar, University of Zadar • Damir Kero, University of Zadar Members: • Giuseppe Attardi, Università degli Studi di Pisa, Pisa, ITALY • Pascal Costanza, Intel, Bruxelles, BELGIUM • Marc Feeley, Université de Montreal, Montreal, CANADA • Scott McKay, Google, U.S.A. • Kent Pitman, Hypermeta, U.S.A. • Christophe Rhodes, Department of Computing, Goldsmiths, University of London, London, UNITED KINGDOM • Robert Strandh, LABRI, Université de Bordeaux, Bordaux, FRANCE • Didier Verna, EPITA / LRDE, FRANCE -- Marco Antoniotti

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