cells-devel October 2007

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[cells-devel] Interesting cells issue, synapses to the rescue
by Ken Tilton 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

Events are always a problem for a Cells-driven model, which being declarative is more of a steady-state paradigm: each cell rule is authored in the midset of "if the rest of the world is such and such, then I am so-and-so". What I have been seleing as a general solution to the event problem is: (c? (case (^event) (this (derive-this self)) (otherwise .cache))) ..where .cache is my current value. ie, as far as this rule is concerned, any event other than 'this means nothing to me and I wish I did not even have to worry about it. The problem I ran into is that my derive-this returned some other model instance, and as other events ignored by this rule transpired, that model instance ceased to be. So the slot in question now held a dead instance and returned it when the slot got queried. This happened in turn because models are cells-mediated and normally when the instance ceased to be some dependency would have kicked off the above rule and it would have returned nil or some new instance, but... ...when some event other than 'this came through, the rule ran and the cell ended up dependent only on the event cell. Rules depend only on the things they touched in their last invocation, and when some other event comes through the only cell touched is the event cell. uh-oh. What is needed is a cells-aware way of saying I /really/ do not want to know about other events, and that is the kind of thing I use synapses for. A synapse is like an flet or labels function, a cell internal to a rule. I have not bundled up the new synapse to look all clever so a lot of wiring shows but in the end it will just be something like: (c? (case (f-find (^event) '(this that)) (this ...) (that ...))) ...and the rule will fire only when the event is thos or that, meaning any/all dependencies established during the processing of this or that will stay around until another event this or that occurs. kt

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cells-devel October 2007