On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Kenny Tilton kennytilton@optonline.net wrote:
Laziz Foo wrote:
Thanks! So I have lost track, is this Cells-Gtk3 (with Cells 3 Inside) or Oldskool Cells-Gtk?
This is cells-gtk3. Oldschool works out of the box, but I wanted the cairo stuff.
And you got help from someone other than Peter H so it sounds as if CG3 has taken hold. Cool.
So it is a battle to death between Cello and Cells-Gtk3 for GUI supremacy? Awesome.
I'm afraid I won't be able to push cells-gtk as much in the near future. Now that I have a job and a new apartment, Real Life keeps me quite busy.
So 1:0 for cello ...
It also occurs to me that if the 'yobbos' really wanted to popularize lisp, they'd find some way to use cells-*tk to create a Visual Studio-like thingy that would enable any CTO's nephew to say, "Oh lisp-- yeah, I do that."
It would not help, I think. Programming is receding into the background (or India or Russia or China) of culture. Once was a time lotsa people wired up electronics. The career is still there for the odd weirdo, but -- well, it's like shade-tree auto mechanics: gone along with the simple technology.
I'd rather say it is like manufacturing: Programming has become a commodity rather than an art, so the big players produce where it is cheapest. So yes, the point-and-click low-barriers code writing will be gone soon, along with making sneakers, plastic toys, and printed circuit boards.
But -- every now and then a handful of smart people realizes that there is more to programming than typing code, and then they create something great.
Those people don't care about shiny IDEs, tho.
Peter