Peter Denno wrote:
On Friday 22 April 2005 23:03, Kenny Tilton wrote:
well, keep the pestering up (13 more days to go) and we can do something.
Is hello-c (or whatever we want to call "UFFI extended to support callbacks into Lisp from C as well as CLisp")
Hello-c is fine with me.
going to get enough attention to warrant its own c-l.net project?
Got me. I haven't had time to think about it yet. Do you suppose there are other projects that would use it?
Well, we would soon have both Cello and Cells-Gtk reaching into Cells to get hello-c, but they also go after Cells, so that is not too silly. And it is hard to imagine anyone doing a project without using Cells. <g> But... When kevin rosenberg encouraged me to take my uffi extensions to a new project, he mentioned that he himself thought it was time for a new uffi. CLisp now has a great FFI, but UFFI does not support CLisp. Callbacks into Lisp from C are now universal enough to meet KR's requirements for UFFI inclusion, but I do not see him going that way. Unless KR has a chnage of heart, Lisp needs a new semi-universal C FFI.
Should utils-kt quietly be redundantly added to Cells and hello-c? Or is it fine as a module under Cells? I doubt it is worth making into its own project, as at least one other did.
Maybe added to cells makes most sense. I'm not too crazy of the idea of a separate module for utilities. We each have our own such collection and I'd like to add a few of mine wherever they are useful.
In my thinking, a module ought to support a bounded, well-defined purpose -- either as a component of a system or as a set of operations on a single kind of object. Utilities aren't like that.
And the good news is that they do not undergo evolutionary development over time, so they can just be replicated into a serious module and forgotten. hmmmm. well, if we are going to upset the applecart we may as well do it all at once: cells out from under cell-cultures to be a toplevel module in the cells project (and eventually the only one). hello-c into its own c-l.net project (if c-l.net approves) utils-kt replicated redundantly into... uh-oh. who exports it?! <sigh> OK, let's have cells export those functions. cello back over to the cello project cell-cultures sleeps with the fish all those in favor? opposed? kt -- Cells? Cello? Cells-Gtk?: http://www.common-lisp.net/project/cells/ Why Lisp? http://lisp.tech.coop/RtL%20Highlight%20Film "Doctor, I wrestled with reality for forty years, and I am happy to state that I finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd