ok, bring it back on list then. there are useful infos in these mails... (or not :)

We? Parallel project? You and Thomas? C4? Other_________?

Is it open source? Has it changed much/been rewritten from scratch? What are you using it for, if you can say?

oh, i tought you heard about it, its at: http://common-lisp.net/project/computed-class/

it's rewritten from scratch. has a little different nomenclature, but i'm planning to rename "computed-state" to "cell" after talking with the others, to bring the two projects closer. of course you're welcome to contribute/use/join the list/etc...

I do not mind at all. Keeps you yobbo rugrats out of my hair. :) And NIH

hehe :)

is certainly my guiding light in software development... I can write my own as fast as I can learn someone else's nonsense, and then it does /exactly/ what I want and I know it cold and I can change it and....

well, i'm not that NIH-oriented, a well written lib can be useful, but i agree that *sometimes* it's worth rolling your own. hm, now that i'm thinking about it, we've ended up not using clsql and cells... maybe i do have NIH, i'm just not aware of it... :) but i do try first with the existing libs.

we had a headache with cells that some internal state got corrupted and from then we had to reload the lib to make it work again. all this in the middle of a big rewrite. then the next day we rolled a prototype that in a few hours that was doing all we needed (we need a simple engine cells-wise, but full clos integration on the other hand).

we use it for keeping computed state (for caching purposes) in sync with the declared state inside the model. "the model" is an UML-like data model integrated with CLOS. you write something like UML (semantically) and get a working app with persistency and a web gui.

we is a small startup, working on http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-wdim/

if you don't mind we may bring this back to the list. but i didn't want to shamelessly advertise the project on the cells list...

-- - attila

"- The truth is that I've been too considerate, and so became unintentionally cruel... - I understand. - No, you don't understand! We don't speak the same language!" (Ingmar Bergman - Smultronstället)