Frank Goenninger wrote:
Hm - I think it's actually a problem of Celtk - it (oh, I shouldn't use "it" - it's not Lispy enough ;-) not being complete in terms of providing a Window as a container for arbitrary objects in a canvas.
I saw that capability (widget in canvas) mentioned, just never had occasion to use it so it never got Celtk-ized. And at this point you may really have to fork Celtk to take it forward in re use of Tk widgets since I am concentrating on Cello for widgets. Maybe pick a new name and start a c-l.net project?
ACL 8.0 - on Mac. Sh*t - this is a case where Slime really sucks. And Franz, too: I've been asking for the full IDE on OS X for years now!
<g> Given the number of Powerbooks I see at Lisp conferences, they might be missing an opportunity. But, hey, stop whining, how hard would it be to whip up a find-definitions dialog using Celtk? I once did a killer inspector using Cello. Do the classic incremental thing, just get ACL to pop up a list of definitions using as much standard mop as possible. Costanza has done some work on a portable MOP, maybe contrib to that as you go (since moppery will be needed to replicate the ACL IDE).
Needless to say, a Slime-killer is something I would love to do just to piss off the Yobbos, and if I end up switching to LW for enough work it might just happen. Not yet, tho.
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Am 31.12.2006 um 15:58 schrieb Ken Tilton:
I saw that capability (widget in canvas) mentioned, just never had occasion to use it so it never got Celtk-ized. And at this point you may really have to fork Celtk to take it forward in re use of Tk widgets since I am concentrating on Cello for widgets. Maybe pick a new name and start a c-l.net project?
No. I thought about a Celtk-AddOn package which provides just that. Or I go the No Canvas route and keep it simple. I am only building a simple GUI as a front-end to a TIBCO Rendezvous middleware bus as a simple test tool.
ACL 8.0 - on Mac. Sh*t - this is a case where Slime really sucks. And Franz, too: I've been asking for the full IDE on OS X for years now!
<g> Given the number of Powerbooks I see at Lisp conferences, they might be missing an opportunity. But, hey, stop whining, how hard would it be to whip up a find-definitions dialog using Celtk?
Not that hard. I simply had the impression that I might be able to get the same tools as on Windows from Franz.
I once did a killer inspector using Cello.
Yes, I remember that one.
Do the classic incremental thing, just get ACL to pop up a list of definitions using as much standard mop as possible. Costanza has done some work on a portable MOP, maybe contrib to that as you go (since moppery will be needed to replicate the ACL IDE).
No, no. Too much work going into something I don't want to invest time in. Work list too long with other stuff.
Needless to say, a Slime-killer is something I would love to do just to piss off the Yobbos, and if I end up switching to LW for enough work it might just happen. Not yet, tho.
Hehe. I'll leave that one to you, then ;-) Too much fun to see you / fighting/ all the new kids on the Lisp block... c.l.l. was a bit boring while you have been on Snowboarding. Utah, again?
Frank
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