It's not the lack of documentation. I don't even know where to start.
Where is the main web page for each of cells, celtk, cello, and cells-gtk? Where are the source code repositories for each? Is there a central location for the tidbits of documentation that exist?
Also, what's the status of each. Actively developed, "finished", or left to rot? KT, which are you working on the most?
Thanks, -Stu P.S. It would be real nice to have a canonical git repository for each on github or gitorious.
Hi Stu,
On 6/11/08, Stu Glaser stuglaser@gmail.com wrote:
It's not the lack of documentation. I don't even know where to start.
That's how we keep the newbies out :-)
Where is the main web page for each of cells, celtk, cello, and cells-gtk?
cells, celtk, cello only really exist in CVS:
http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?root=cells#dirlist
cells-gtk is not too hard to find:
http://common-lisp.net/project/cells-gtk
Where are the source code repositories for each?
CVS, cells, celtk, cello see above. cells-gtk is linked on the cells-gtk project page.
Is there a central location for the tidbits of documentation that exist?
There is the cells-manifesto and examples in the cells CVS. There is the primer and FAQ linked from the cells-gtk project page. There is the example application and demo test-gtk in the cells-gtk cvs.
Also, what's the status of each. Actively developed, "finished", or left to rot?
A piece of art is never finished. :-)
cells: "mature and stable" says the cells-manifesto. Ken adds stuff as required.
cells-gtk: beta, semi-actively developed (i.e. whenever a bug comes up or we miss functionality, we add it)
cells-ode: close to 1.0 (I don't know what to add right now)
KT, which are you working on the most?
That, and the status of celtk/cello be left to Himself :)
HTH, Peter
P.S. It would be real nice to have a canonical git repository for each on github or gitorious.
I know CVS is quite old and people use darcs, git, svn, and mercurial these days, but what advantage is it exactly that we would get from migrating to git?
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Ken, Peter, thanks for the info.
That's how we keep the newbies out :-)
Newbie? http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/cells-devel/2006-May/000467.html
P.S. It would be real nice to have a canonical git repository for each on github or gitorious.
I know CVS is quite old and people use darcs, git, svn, and mercurial these days, but what advantage is it exactly that we would get from migrating to git?
I find a distributed VCS much easier to do development on since I can more easily branch locally (particularly when without internet). My preference is mercurial, but git's fine too. Mostly I dislike CVS, as it gives you little information on what the revisions actually are.
-Stu
Stu Glaser wrote:
Ken, Peter, thanks for the info.
That's how we keep the newbies out :-)
Newbie? http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/cells-devel/2006-May/000467.html
This is awesome, we have the thing hidden so well people that who have found it once or not sure of being able to find it again after a hiatus. :)
P.S. It would be real nice to have a canonical git repository for each on github or gitorious.
I know CVS is quite old and people use darcs, git, svn, and mercurial these days, but what advantage is it exactly that we would get from migrating to git?
I like the looks of git, but I do not know if c-l.net supports git and I have things under control now (thx to TortoiseCVS) so any switch would be down the road some.
cheers, kenny
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Ken Tilton kennytilton@optonline.net wrote:
I like the looks of git, but I do not know if c-l.net supports git and I have things under control now (thx to TortoiseCVS) so any switch would be down the road some.
Actually, when I set up openair on c-l.net, they said that git was supported now. Git also has the awesome gitk/git-gui combination to make committing changes easier (see screenshot).
There's no rush though as far as I'm concerned. Its easy enough to work off a central CVS server with a local git. I think that's not a bad model to follow in any case. Those that like git use it, those that haven't got round to learning it yet aren't forced to.
-- Andy
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