http://www.tilton-technology.com/cellophane.html Still just ACL/win32 for now, with Lispworks having a couple of problems (which look easy) and progress reported on an SBCL/OSX/X11 port. I will clean things up and make a zip available to anyone brave enough to dive in at the deep end, in a day or three. kt -- http://tilton-technology.com Why Lisp? http://alu.cliki.net/RtL%20Highlight%20Film Your Project Here! http://alu.cliki.net/Industry%20Application