On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Luke Crook luke@balooga.com wrote:
Is there a proposal anywhere in Lisp land to either replace asdf-install or fix it?
Clornucopia sounds promising. http://trac.clozure.com/clornucopia/wiki/ClornucopiaDevel
Luís Oliveira wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Luke Crook luke@balooga.com wrote:
Is there a proposal anywhere in Lisp land to either replace asdf-install or fix it?
Clornucopia sounds promising. http://trac.clozure.com/clornucopia/wiki/ClornucopiaDevel
FWIW, it's important to point out that this is not on the near horizon, so it is not a substitute for the use of ASDF-install.
Personally, since I use Allegro at least as much as SBCL, and because I don't use SBCL-style assumptions about library locations, I find ASDF-install much more comfortable than clbuild, which seems like the only short-horizon alternative (besides using the revision control systems, which doesn't work terribly well when there are cross-library dependencies). If I get back to using CFFI, I'll have a whack at making it work again with asdf-install.
best, r
short-horizon alternative (besides using the revision control systems, which doesn't work terribly well when there are cross-library dependencies). If I
fwiw, in my experience this is right the opposite.
i don't say that i never have problems putting together a working setup, because inter-library dependencies can cause headaches with non-backward compatible changes, but in such situations i find DVCS'es especially useful.
Attila Lendvai wrote:
short-horizon alternative (besides using the revision control systems, which doesn't work terribly well when there are cross-library dependencies). If I
fwiw, in my experience this is right the opposite.
i don't say that i never have problems putting together a working setup, because inter-library dependencies can cause headaches with non-backward compatible changes, but in such situations i find DVCS'es especially useful.
Actually, I think perhaps the biggest part of the problem is that the :version :depends-on (and indeed, the :version attribute itself) in ASDF has never really caught on, meaning that as a library or system user it's hard to detect when a dependency has failed.
Ideally, with a :version depends-on, it should be possible to detect when, e.g., my beirc update requires a version of cl-irc I don't have....
Doubly ideally, ASDF-install should support installing particular version numbers, and ASDF should permit us to have multiple versions of a single library installed.... But if people don't use the :version attributes, there's not really a lot of point in fussing about handling versions.
I suppose it would be possible to back-end ASDF-install to a DVCS or a conventional VCS...
cheers, r
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