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Re: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages
by Corey Sweeney 22 Jun '07

22 Jun '07

Hey everyone. Ok this is really late, and lots of stuff to talk about. First up: The list lag. John mentioned recieving 5 backloged messages. I wrote the original message on sunday the 10th at 3:42pm. When did everyone recieve it? I think i stopped checking for responces on tuesday a little before people started responding :) [emergency at work happened] Ok, now I have some issues, like: Tech coffie is to early to get up I'm in the northwest suburbs (is anyone else in the suburbs, or is *everyone* in the city?) I also have a major issue that i'm not portable. My project is bound to my (huge) machine, and people don't want to let me format thier laptops hard drive when they loan it to me. heh. I've been trying to install to a USB keychain drive. I now have knoppix on the keychain drive, but i havn't figured out how to add programs to knoppix since the filesystem is compressed and appears to be read only. Plus what everyones said so far. Now for solutions: I propose that we set up a IRC channel, (probably #chicago-lisp on freenet), and have IRC meetings at the same time as the code sprints. The idea would be to log in from the code sprint if you can make it, or just log in from home if your lazy. It also means that we could have "satelite meetings" where a couple people could have a more local "code sprint" that was networked to the main one. Also, I like the idea of makeing the code sprints the focal point for the lisp get togethers (especially since I can rarely make saturdays). I'd propose that we make the code sprint/irc meetings the "get together time", and just do the LUG when we have a actual presentation? What do people think? Corey P.S. does anyone know how to deal with the compressed knoppix filesystem? On 6/13/07, michael bobak <mike.bobak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah! me too. I should be able to catch part of this Fridays. > > > On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:59 PM, John Quigley wrote: > > michael bobak wrote: > I had suggested the 'tech-coffee' in my email that didn't go through; but > would probably be more interested in this one. > > We've modeled this after TechCoffee. Most of us are night-owls so the early > morning TechCoffee schedule isn't compatible, if you get my drift. > Programming Tonight generally runs from 7p to 12a or so. > > - John Quigley > _______________________________________________ > chicago-lisp site list > chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp ps. I > didn't cc the list, as it always bounces for me. > _Michael bobak(a)computer.org __ > http://chicagolisp.googlepages.com/ > > -- ((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y)))

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[chicago-lisp] BARcamp Chicago is this weekend!
by Jason Rexilius 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Hi Everyone! BARcamp is this weekend (Sat-Sun, 23-24 June) and I am super excited! Everyone has really come together for this. We have a lot of great talks and ideas floating around and everyone seems to be pitching in something to help. The last organizer meet-up is tonight at Goose Island(clyborn) @ 7:00. There are also a couple other events this week worth checking out that I want to mention. Beer and ideas to get primed for BARcamp ;-) - Kristen Nicole's Web Ascent is happening Wed the 20th. http://www.webascentevents.com/ - MIT-EF has this cool Whiteboard competition happening Tue the 19th. http://www.mitefchicago.org/dojo/18/v.jsp?p=/BelowtheRadar Uuhh.. thats all I can remember. Its going to be a fun week in the Chicago tech world.. So back to BARcamp. Some of the stuff that is going to be happening this weekend is: - Dave Williams talk on building cross platform widgets with wxWidgets - FRDCSA A.I. talk on learning coding libraries through operator learning and representation - Linux install fest and lightening talks on a few special purpose distros - Tristan Sloughter teaches us how to Brew Beer at Home! - Kirix talks about their Human UI for browsing web data - MobileWeb 2.0 hackathon, building apps for mobile devices. - Perry spins the trax, live webcast for the kids at home - Humanized talks about Enso - ChicagoBeta-BARcamp Job Board - exploration, the joy of learning things and lots of liquor Some last shout-outs for help: - video peoples, help capture talks and goings on. - please bring power strips, Cat5 cables, extension cords, pillows to sit on - bring an idea for a code sprint Thats it. Looking forward to seeing you all there! -jason jason(a)hostedlabs.com 847.208.1000 event details: http://barcampchicago.com/

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Re: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages
by John Quigley 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

michael bobak wrote: > I had suggested the 'tech-coffee' in my email that didn't go through; > but would probably be more interested in this one. We've modeled this after TechCoffee. Most of us are night-owls so the early morning TechCoffee schedule isn't compatible, if you get my drift. Programming Tonight generally runs from 7p to 12a or so. - John Quigley

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[chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages
by Corey Sweeney 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

I've been thinking about one of the disadvantages of using functional/syntax free languages. In particular, how normally working in a small group can be more helpfull then working alone, but often when using functional or syntax free languages, not many other people know your language. I was wondering how many other people are working in isolation in thier lisp or functional programming projects, and what we could do about it. Perhaps some kind of weekly private irc meeting, or voice over IP meeting, or something like that... A place where we could trade ideas, and review each others code? Part of this would depend on how many people are using the language at work, and how many employers are willing to have company code seen outside the company. How many other people are working in isolation? What ideas does everyone else have? Corey -- ((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y)))

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Re: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free languages
by Alim Ray 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

I would like to meet... perhaps in person if anyone is downtown. Michael, we were in the same class at DePaul. My presentation/project was called Check Data. Was yours the Recipe Site? Alim >From: "Michael Leiseca" <mleiseca(a)gmail.com> >To: "Corey Sweeney" <corey.sweeney(a)gmail.com> >CC: chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net >Subject: Re: [chicago-lisp] Thoughts on functional and syntax free >languages >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:02:29 -0500 > >That would be great! I just finished a small project in lisp for a >course at depaul. As I worked on that project, I wasn't sure if open >source projects in lisp that I was trying to use were actually >maintained and under active development. Generally, I couldn't find >much discussion of what people were using for lisp development. In my >case, a lot of it was web development type of stuff. It would also be >very helpful for me to have someone else's perspective on my code >seeing as how I was alone in my effort. > >--michael > >On 6/10/07, Corey Sweeney <corey.sweeney(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>I've been thinking about one of the disadvantages of using >>functional/syntax free languages. In particular, how normally working >>in a small group can be more helpfull then working alone, but often >>when using functional or syntax free languages, not many other people >>know your language. >> >>I was wondering how many other people are working in isolation in >>thier lisp or functional programming projects, and what we could do >>about it. >> >>Perhaps some kind of weekly private irc meeting, or voice over IP >>meeting, or something like that... A place where we could trade >>ideas, and review each others code? Part of this would depend on how >>many people are using the language at work, and how many employers are >>willing to have company code seen outside the company. >> >>How many other people are working in isolation? >> >>What ideas does everyone else have? >> >> >>Corey >> >>-- >>((lambda (y) (y y)) (lambda (y) (y y))) >>_______________________________________________ >>chicago-lisp site list >>chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net >>http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp >> >_______________________________________________ >chicago-lisp site list >chicago-lisp(a)common-lisp.net >http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/chicago-lisp _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migrati…

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[chicago-lisp] Chicago Linux Meeting: June 16
by John Quigley 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Folks: The Chicago GNU/Linux Group is meeting on Saturday, June 16, 2007 at 3:00pm. We'll be meeting at the Cleversafe, Inc. offices, right off the red and green lines by US Cellular Field: http://tinyurl.com/2j22sn Our presentations are set to be: * The Falcon Storage Engine (Jess Balint) * Reading and Understanding Software Licensing (Erik Rakoczy) Additionally, we'll be spending time as a group in planning for BarCamp, which is taking place next weekend, and discussing group projects being developed during our weekly code sprints. As always, beer and food are allowed: please come prepared. For further information, visit our homepage or see the meeting agenda: * http://www.chicagolug.org/ * http://www.chicagolug.org/wiki/Agenda20070616 Feel free to call or email me directly with questions or concerns. Best, John Quigley cell 312.351.3671 mail jq(a)jquigley.com home www.jquigley.com

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[chicago-lisp] Updates: website, meeting, BarCamp
by John Quigley 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Folks: We've grown quiet here again, and I think we should push for another meeting. First, let me inform you that I've been working towards a website for us on my end: http://www.chicagolisp.org/ Feedback, or help in any form, would be greatly appreciated. You'll notice a big section entitled "Articles." I'd love to post articles that our community writes here. I've asked some people in my language design research group to help on this, and there's decided interest. If you've ever had an inclination to formally write on some topic about functional languages/programming (not just Lisp-specific), I'd love to host that article on our site. I'm hosting a Chicago Linux meeting at my company's place of business (Cleversafe, Inc.) this coming Saturday (June 16th at 3p). We're located within a block of the Red (Sox/35th) and Green (IIT/Bronzeville) stops, right on the IIT campus. Let's try to get a Lisp meeting going concurrently, don't you think? What we need is two people will to give a presentation on anything remotely Lisp-related. Interested? Please email the list! Also, please note that BarCamp is coming up http://www.barcampchicago.com/ I'm giving a Lisp presentation on Saturday at 1600 hours: http://www.barcampchicago.com/index.php?wiki=SaturdaysAgenda I think it would be awesome if others signed up to attend - or to speak - if at all possible. I plan on really advertising for the Lisp group, as BarCamp attracts a huge number of people interested in technology. Hope everything is well amongst you all =) Best, John Quigley

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[chicago-lisp] BARcamp Chicago 2007 June 23-24
by Jason Rexilius 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi Everyone! Wanted to update you all on BARcamp and ask for some feedback. The site (http://barcampchicago.com/) has been updated with the basic info on date and location. Its June 23-24 at 1464 n milwaukee. There are talks scheduled and some events planned but I wanted to ask you all what types of things you might want to see or hear about and to look for volunteers to run some code sprints or other projects. I also wanted to ask people to sign up on the wiki as attendees. I'm a little concerned that we may run out of space even though the venue is bigger than last years. I want to get a feeling for how much need there may be for a "spill over" venue. Looking forward to seeing you all at BARcamp and drop me a line if you have any comments, questions, ideas! -jason

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