[cl-debian] clisp is up for adoption -- moving

Hello, Will Newton has given clisp away for adoption: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=330076 Just to let you all know. ;-) That'd be the chance to get clisp into a Darcs repository of CL-Debian. No, I am not going to adopt it myself for the below reason: Don't expect quick responses from me until about December. I am moving and will not have an internet connection in my new home until then. I will still download my bugreports and upload updated packages through university, so it should not be neccesary to NMU my packages. The time offline will give me the time to implement my planned dh-lisp changes and to extend the CLiD from a developer-document to a document for Debian's Lisp-users. Grüße, René

Hi René, On Saturday 01 October 2005 10:01, René van Bevern wrote:
Will Newton has given clisp away for adoption: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=330076 Just to let you all know. ;-) That'd be the chance to get clisp into a Darcs repository of CL-Debian. No, I am not going to adopt it myself for the below reason:
I'm hesitant about adopting it because I already lack a bit of time to do proper maintenance of my existing CL packages. I'll investigate how the source package looks like :-). Is anyone interested in co-maintainership?
The time offline will give me the time to implement my planned dh-lisp changes and to extend the CLiD from a developer-document to a document for Debian's Lisp-users.
I'm looking forward to see this, and I wish you a care-free move... Groetjes, Peter -- signature -at- pvaneynd.mailworks.org http://www.livejournal.com/users/pvaneynd/ "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr | "God is more forgiving." Dave Aronson|

Hi Peter, On 1.10.05, Peter Van Eynde wrote:
On Saturday 01 October 2005 10:01, René van Bevern wrote:
Will Newton has given clisp away for adoption: Is anyone interested in co-maintainership?
David Smith has replied to the ITP, wanting to adopt it. Maybe he is willing to comaintain it with you? He is in need for a sponsor, it seems. So that'd be the usual thing for you, as you need to sponsor most of us. ;-)
The time offline will give me the time to implement my planned dh-lisp changes and to extend the CLiD from a developer-document to a document for Debian's Lisp-users. I'm looking forward to see this, and I wish you a care-free move...
dh-lisp 0.2 is almost ready for a test. Unfortunately I forgot to synchronize my changes of the last night to my USB harddisk and am now sitting here without them. That means that the current version in the repository has still known and bad bugs. I'll upload the rest tomorrow (I finally need an internet connection at home) and it should be ready for some tests. More on that tomorrow. René

Hello people, On Thursday 13 October 2005 16:01, René van Bevern wrote:
Is anyone interested in co-maintainership?
David Smith has replied to the ITP, wanting to adopt it. Maybe he is willing to comaintain it with you? He is in need for a sponsor, it seems. So that'd be the usual thing for you, as you need to sponsor most of us. ;-)
I would be more then willing to comaintain it. But it is a little of a large package to have under complete darcs control... Groetjes, Peter -- signature -at- pvaneynd.mailworks.org http://www.livejournal.com/users/pvaneynd/ "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr | "God is more forgiving." Dave Aronson|

On 2005.10.14, 04:19 (JST), pvaneynd@debian.org wrote:
Hello people,
On Thursday 13 October 2005 16:01, René van Bevern wrote:
Is anyone interested in co-maintainership?
David Smith has replied to the ITP, wanting to adopt it. Maybe he is willing to comaintain it with you? He is in need for a sponsor, it seems. So that'd be the usual thing for you, as you need to sponsor most of us. ;-)
I would be more then willing to comaintain it. But it is a little of a large package to have under complete darcs control...
I would also be happy to comaintain it. I'm familiar with the Debian packaging tools but this would certainly be the largest package I've worked on. How do you feel about baz/tla for version control? -- David D. Smith A man without doubt is a monster.

On Friday 14 October 2005 09:05, David D. Smith wrote:
I would also be happy to comaintain it. I'm familiar with the Debian packaging tools but this would certainly be the largest package I've worked on. How do you feel about baz/tla for version control?
Boh. I have no strong feelings about any system, can it: - work disconnected - work with only a http space, common-lisp.net only offering cvs and http access - give us example commands to use it My feeling is that if darcs can handle clisp (and it does so far) for simplicity we should stick to it. It is becoming the common-lisp vc system of choice... Groetjes, Peter -- signature -at- pvaneynd.mailworks.org http://www.livejournal.com/users/pvaneynd/ "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr | "God is more forgiving." Dave Aronson|

On Friday 14 October 2005 14:21, René van Bevern wrote:
On 13.10.05, Peter Van Eynde wrote:
But it is a little of a large package to have under complete darcs control...
Hm, how is that different from the sbcl and cmucl repositories? They are also large but I found it feasible to work with them.
Upstream is not maintained in darcs and the new upstream is not pulled in via darcs. In both cases the 'debian' version uses darcs for the debian changes, but if a new upstream version comes out I use CVS to update the upstream and the debian trees to the newest version. Trying to update the upstream tree with something, registering with darcs and pulling that into the debian tree simply does not work with the current darcs implementation. I left the merge running for _days_ :-( Still the advantages of darcs outweigh that little problem. Groetjes, Peter -- signature -at- pvaneynd.mailworks.org http://www.livejournal.com/users/pvaneynd/ "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr | "God is more forgiving." Dave Aronson|

On 13.10.05, René van Bevern wrote: Hi,
dh-lisp 0.2 is almost ready for a test. Unfortunately I forgot to ... More on that tomorrow.
Ok. Peter, can you please build and upload dh-lisp 0.2 from my repository (repository/rvb/dh-lisp)? For the packages that are using dh-lisp now, no changes are required neither should you expect changes in the result. So if somebody encounters different results from dh-lisp 0.1, this is most likely a bug. ;-) For future packages, if somebody decides to put precompiled files from CMUCL, SBCL or Clisp into his package (for what reason ever), dh-lisp should automatically add a dependency on the appropriate implementation version to the misc:Depends variable. So if you do that, don't forget to "Depends: ${misc:Depends}", which would be good anyway, because dh-lisp also adds the dependencies for the common-lisp-controller. (this will be documented in the next update of the clid, that I will publish as soon as dh-lisp 0.2 is in the archive). So far, good night. René

On Friday 14 October 2005 22:40, René van Bevern wrote:
Ok. Peter, can you please build and upload dh-lisp 0.2 from my repository (repository/rvb/dh-lisp)?
Now running lintian... E: dh-lisp: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file Don't you just hate lintian by now :-). Uploading now... Groetjes, Peter -- signature -at- pvaneynd.mailworks.org http://www.livejournal.com/users/pvaneynd/ "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr | "God is more forgiving." Dave Aronson|
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