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Processing commands for control(a)bugs.debian.org: > forcemerge 177057 462085 Bug#177057: clisp: base/full in clisp-package Bug#462085: clisp: Please provide a smal linking set Forcibly Merged 177057 462085. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database)

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[cl-debian] Bug#177057: [Debian] clisp base/full linking sets
by Luca Capello 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hi Sam! On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:09:15 +0100, Sam Steingold wrote: >> I am fine with one package with two linking sets, but having two >> separate packages is IMHO a better solution, since it will help people >> who wants a minimal clisp installation. > > on a second thought, you might be right. > in fact, you might want to offer several different packages, e.g., in > addition to clisp-base, > - clisp-db (base + bdb + postgresql) > - clisp-gui (base + clx + gtk) > - clisp-net (base + rawsock + ???) > - clisp-math (base + libsvm + pari) While this could be a good option, we should evaluate if it is worth in terms of package content and size. > you might also build clisp with dynamic modules and offer individual > modules a la carte. While my previous point is still valid, thank you for the hint: I have never considered before dynamic modules as an option. >> Is there any disadvantage with two separate packages? > > are clisp-base and clisp-full going to be independent? > if yes, which will be used by default? > > I suggest that clisp-full depends on clisp-base and the latter is > _always_ the default (as it is with the normal clisp installation). The situation will be as you have described, with the variant that I still need to think if keeping an extra/dummy clisp package is worth. > Note also that the file clisp/unix/INSTALL has a section "Additional > Information for Maintainers of Binary Packages" with a "Module > selection" subsection. I think it would be a good idea for debian to > follow those suggestions. I have already planned to better check that file, but for the next Debian version, i.e. the first one after lenny. > I am mostly concerned with "offering a uniform experience to all CLISP > users regardless of platform or distribution". I am also interested in "uniformity" and "consistency", thus please feel free to cc: me in any discussion on that argument. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca

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[cl-debian] Bug#177057: [Debian] clisp base/full linking sets (was Re: [Debian] clisp-dev dependencies)
by Luca Capello 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hi Sam! I moved the discussion about the linking sets to bug #177057 [4] where it belongs to, please continue there (again, no subscription required). I also cc:ed the original submitter for that bug and the one for bug #462085 [5], since I consider the second a duplicate of the first. If Jörg Sommer will not disagree in one week, I will merge the two bugs. On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:44:24 +0100, Sam Steingold wrote: >> * Luca Capello <yhpn(a)cpn.vg> [2008-11-05 00:01:59 +0100]: >>> readline-dev x11-dev et al are required only for building images on >>> top of the full linking set, not on top of the base linking set, so >>> they are at most "strongly recommended". >> >> The problem is double: >> >> 1) ATM Debian does not ship two clisp linking sets, despite a wishlist >> bug is openend for more than 5 years now [4] (with another one being >> very similar [5]). I already planned to solve this issue splitting >> the Debian clisp package into clisp-base and clisp-full, but I have >> not had time yet :-( >> >> 2) makevars wants to include all of the libraries listed in clisp-dev >> Depends:, that is why these libraries are, in the Debian world, >> required. > > why don't you want to ship one package with two linking sets?! I am fine with one package with two linking sets, but having two separate packages is IMHO a better solution, since it will help people who wants a minimal clisp installation. Is there any disadvantage with two separate packages? What do the original submitters think? Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca >> Footnotes: >> [4] http://bugs.debian.org/177057 >> [5] http://bugs.debian.org/462085

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