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Request for comments: Design of common-lisp.net and Logo
by Max Rottenkolber 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Hi everyone, First off, I noticed a slight usability problem with the CSS stylesheet used by common-lisp.net: When inside a smallish browser window, the lotus background image is beneath the text and makes it hard to read. Here is a before/after to illustrate what I am on about: http://imgur DOT com/a/bac8s (including other minor changes) If you guys need help with the stylesheet I would love to lend a hand! Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what should/could be in a CL logo? * the letters “CL” since that abbreviation is quite widespread, I guess * do people want a mascot? there was that lisp alien... * the “λ” and jin+yang symbols seems popular for lisp related things Any ideas on other things suited to illustrate a CL logo? Regard, max

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"Little Lisper" lambda logo and possible derivative (was: Re: Request for comments: Design of common-lisp.net and Logo)
by Dave Cooper 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Dear Mr. Steele, Thank you for securing the rights to your logo from "the Little Lisper" and granting them for use by the Common Lisp Foundation and on common-lisp.net. You can see the current state of things on http://common-lisp.net. We hope you find our current use of the logo to be appropriate. There has been some discussion of "morphing" this logo into something a bit more CL-specific (e.g. morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something resembling a "C"), for use by the CL community, and to represent the CL language in general. Would you have any issues with us going ahead and working on a derivative? Of course I think you should be entitled to have veto power over any proposed alternatives we come up with. Best Regards, Dave Cooper Secretary, Common Lisp Foundation P.S. if you would like to follow the discussion in more detail, please feel free to join the mailing list clo-devel(a)common-lisp.net (if you're not already on it ;): https://mailman.common-lisp.net/listinfo/clo-devel On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Dave Cooper <david.cooper(a)genworks.com> wrote: > > Hi Cherie, > > Have you been following this discussion? > > What do you think of forking something a bit more CL-specific off of Guy > Steele's double-lambda logo (for CLF as well as for use on common-lisp.net) > (see below)? > > Please advise, > > Dave > > > P.S. For those of you on clo-devel who don't know Cherie Yang, she is the > designer-in-chief for common-lisp.net. The reported stylesheet issue > would also be of interest to Cheryl, if she hasn't seen that yet. > > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Max Rottenkolber <max(a)mr.gy> wrote: > >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:56:44 -0400, Dave Cooper wrote: >> >> >> > Second, I noticed that we (as in the CL community) don't seem to have >> >> > a language logo. There are a handful of Lisp logos but none that >> >> > exclusively say “Common Lisp”. I think common-lisp.net could use one >> >> > especially. I would be interested in “crowd sourcing” a logo for the >> >> > CL community by ways of a public poll. The question is, what >> >> > should/could be in a CL logo? >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > The rights to the logo currently being used at common-lisp.net >> (attached) >> > were granted to the Common Lisp Foundation by Guy Steele. You may >> recognize >> > this as coming from the cover of The Little Lisper. >> > >> > I realize this logo does not explicitly say "Common Lisp." >> > >> > How about morphing the upside-down lambda on the left into something >> like a >> > "C" (and leaving the other lambda alone, since this is already a form of >> > letter "L") ? >> >> I had the same idea in fact, but I realized that my graphics skills are >> not sufficient to produce an acceptable result. ;) I had the following >> idea: Why not organize a public submission period and then hold a public >> poll to find a canonical logo? I imagine it like this: >> >> 1. Provide a trusted public submission portal (e.g. “mail your >> submission to logos(a)common-lisp.xn--net-9o0a) >> 2. Announce submission deadline on all public CL forums (mailing lists, >> nntp, reddit, planet lisp, ...) >> 3. Hold a public poll on the submitted logos (again announce on all >> forums) >> 4. Declare the most popular the new community logo >> >> I would volunteer to organize the process, and I think c-l.net is in a >> position to provide the necesary “neutral ground”. I think there are some >> benefits to this approach as we can outsource the graphical talent and >> get a result that the community decided on. :) >> >> >> >> > > > -- > My Best, > > Dave Cooper > genworks.com, gendl.org > +1 248-330-2979 > > -- My Best, Dave Cooper genworks.com, gendl.org +1 248-330-2979

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Re: Experiencing problems to connect to common-lisp.net over ssh.
by Mark Evenson 21 Sep '15

21 Sep '15

On 2015/9/1 10:10, Philippe Brochard wrote: > Erik Huelsmann <ehuels(a)gmail.com> writes: […] >> Is this a project that's currently stored in Git already? If not, do >> you need help converting from Subversion/Darcs/Bazaar/...? >> > Yes, the project is CLFSWM and it uses git for quite some time. The use > of gitlab for the project is working fine. > I just need to update the project page with updated information about > how to clone the code from gitlab. > > I'd like to use the gitlab wiki instead of trac. I have found some way > to convert pages from trac.db to gitlab markdown. But if you have > already done this for other projects you can also do it for CLFSWM. > On the other way, I'll can share the procedure to convert a trac wiki to > a gitlab wiki (if I can do it). Yes, please share such a procedure if possible no matter how rudimentary. There are other projects who could benefit from such a migration. We'd be especially interested in HTTP rewrites that would bounce old links to new locations. -- "A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare to it now."

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Slow display of files (again)
by Raymond Toy 02 Sep '15

02 Sep '15

Had this problem with cmucl src/code and src/compiler directories a while ago but it was fixed. However, try getting the file list for ansi-tests/ansi-tests and scroll down a bit. It brings firefox to its knees. Chrome is a bit better but it still takes a while on my 3GHz imac. Compare this with github.com/rtoy/ansi-cl-tests. It's very smooth and takes no time at all. (It would probably be nice for its own sake if ansi-tests put related tests into subdirectories instead of all the files in one directory. But that's a different issue.) -- Ray

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