Hi Chun Tian,
Thanks for the feedback. My $0.02:
I think common-lisp.net should indeed support project websites with their repositories hosted on github/bitbucket/sourceforge, but if volunteer administrators (currently led by Erik H) are willing to support repository hosting directly on common-lisp.net then why would we not want that as well?
Already there are hundreds of projects hosted at common-lisp.net and it will be less disruptive for them to get consolidated under gitlab than force all of them to relocate to another site entirely.
A bit further down the road, I have hopes that common-lisp.net will be able to offer CL-specific services, for example:
o private-repository hosting (paid)
o source escrow services (paid)
o online automated build verifications with multiple CL implementations (including defined Quicklisp snapshots), connected with the two items above
o online automated regression testing (connected with above)
o support for CL-based web application deployment and hosting (paid for proprietary, free for open-source). Eventually all of common-lisp.net itself should be set up as a CL-based web application.
I would contend that such services can only be delivered effectively from a CL-focused perspective, not by melding into and depending everything on whatever generic, commodity "cloud" services are currently popular.
With a combination of recurring donations plus paid services like these, my hope is that common-lisp.net can continue to be a viable and self-sustaining service as well as focal point for CL-related resources.
I'll go on record and say that Genworks would be at least one paying customer for services such as what I've listed above.
Best Regards,
Dave
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Chun Tian (binghe) binghe.lisp@gmail.com wrote:
Hey guys,
I know I “disappeared" for a long time and I’m not an important one, but I have one suggestion here. If I’m wrong or you don’t like it, please don’t blame me:
We should move all responsibilities to Github (or sourceForge if SVN or CVS is still required by some projects), and then ONLY use common-lisp.net for project web site hosting (project web pages, and file downloads for users who don’t use quicklisp) , because the hostname (common-lisp.net) is still the best choice for Common Lisp related projects.
Regards,
Chun Tian (binghe)
Il giorno 13/feb/2015, alle ore 17:23, Raymond Toy toy.raymond@gmail.com ha scritto:
> "Erik" == Erik Huelsmann ehuels@gmail.com writes:
Erik> Hi everybody,
Hmm. Is this some kind of Friday the 13th joke? :-)
These plans seem awfully ambitious, but I look forward to them.
Erik> 0. Install a Code Commenting plugin on Trac to make it match Erik> the GitLab code commenting capabilities
Is this step necessary? We haven't had one thus far, and it seems that gitlab is the way to go, so adding functionality to Trac is just more work.
Depending on the difficulty, I think I would rather just migrate all of my Trac stuff to gitlab instead of trying to make Trac work with gitlab in some fashion. (Unless gitlab and Trac already have some kind of integration.)
In any case, I'm excited about these changes.
-- Ray
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