On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 07:29 Mark Evenson <evenson@panix.com> wrote:


> On Nov 15, 2023, at 13:55, Erik Huelsmann <ehuels@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 13:39 Mark Evenson <evenson@panix.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 15, 2023, at 12:29, Erik Huelsmann <ehuels@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Unfortunately, this is nothing new and has happened on several occasions over the past weeks. I have no idea what could be causing this issue, but could it be related to reverse proxying paste.lisp.org which is no longer serving pages?
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> I missed the retirement of paste.lisp.org <http://paste.lisp.org/>:  it was running read-only for quite a while.  Was a decision made to shut it down permanently?
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> No, that decision made itself: the ever since the bots have been kicked off Libera, the server has been failing to serve lisppaste as well. The only thing I did after months of failure (which I did note only in arrears; I wasn't actively looking at these failures happening), I took the sbcl out of its misery and just shut it down.

I heard about the “libera.chat bans bots” ambiently over the last couple months. 

I just had the following conversation in #libera-bots

<easye> Mornin' all.  I am trying to get some up-to-date information about the                   
        status of bots being allowed on libera chat networks.  Over the past                     
        couple months, I've heard ambiently that "bots are now banned", but                       
        according to <https://libera.chat/guides/faq#are-bots-allowed> bots                       
        *are* allowed.                                                  [06:14]                   
<easye> Has the policy outlined in the libera faq ("bots allowed with                             
        permission from channel operator") been changed?                [06:19]                   
<moonmoon> hasn't                                                       [06:21]                   
<moonmoon> whether a bot is allowed in a channel is up to the ops of that                         
           channel                                                                               
<easye> moonmoon: thank you for the clarification.                      [06:22]                   
<moonmoon> so if you heard that bots are banned from a particular channel, it                     
           means that. not a network-wide thing                                                 


So, it must be that the operator of #commonlisp that banned the bot?  Who is that at this point? 

Anybody have insight into whatever drama is

I can shed a bit of light on that: the bots were alledgedly continuously reconnecting to the IRC network. When I found them, every connection attempt was answered by the IRC network with a message like "you're banned. Fix your setup."

So I expect that this isn't an issue with the libera policy on bots in general neither with the ops of the channels the bots want to join.

Thanks for looking into this!

Regards,

Erik