Hi,
what do we want to do with abandoned projects? By abandoned, I mean projects where the owner has become unreachable at the email address that he has provided or configured in their .forward file?
Several users of common-lisp.net are no longer reachable by email, and mailman bounces moderation reminder emails back to us, which does not make a whole lot of sense.
I tend to think that deleting (archiving) such project mailing lists would be best. If anyone is interested, they can always get in touch with us.
Thoughts? Hans
Hans Hübner wrote:
what do we want to do with abandoned projects? By abandoned, I mean projects where the owner has become unreachable at the email address that he has provided or configured in their .forward file?
Several users of common-lisp.net are no longer reachable by email, and mailman bounces moderation reminder emails back to us, which does not make a whole lot of sense.
I tend to think that deleting (archiving) such project mailing lists would be best. If anyone is interested, they can always get in touch with us.
How about advertising projects in need of a maintainer. People may not realize they are unreachable, people may not know something is unmaintained, ...
IMO, shutting down the mailing lists should be a final step before mothballing a project and relegating it to a single archive tarball. It would seem reasonable to change the config for unmaintained lists to auto-reject moderation requests, with a message mentioning the project is currently unmaintained and a pointer on how to change that.
- Daniel
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:34 PM, dherring@tentpost.com wrote:
Hans Hübner wrote: How about advertising projects in need of a maintainer. People may not realize they are unreachable, people may not know something is unmaintained, ...
IMO, shutting down the mailing lists should be a final step before mothballing a project and relegating it to a single archive tarball. It would seem reasonable to change the config for unmaintained lists to auto-reject moderation requests, with a message mentioning the project is currently unmaintained and a pointer on how to change that.
These are two sensible suggestions. I'm going to collect the projects in question and post the list to my Blog (which will then end on Planet Lisp, too). I'll also change the mailman configuration in the way that you've suggested.
Thanks, Hans
"Hans" == Hans Hübner hans.huebner@gmail.com writes:
Hans> These are two sensible suggestions. I'm going to collect the projects Hans> in question and post the list to my Blog (which will then end on Hans> Planet Lisp, too). I'll also change the mailman configuration in the Hans> way that you've suggested.
Would it not also make sense to make a note of that on the common-lisp.net home page? Althought I should, I don't actually read Planet Lisp that often.
Ray
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Raymond Toy toy.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
Would it not also make sense to make a note of that on the common-lisp.net home page? Althought I should, I don't actually read Planet Lisp that often.
I don't actually know how to do that, and I'm also sceptical whether that page is read by many people. It would be good if that changed.
-Hans
"Hans" == Hans Hübner hans.huebner@gmail.com writes:
Hans> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Raymond Toy toy.raymond@gmail.com wrote: >> Would it not also make sense to make a note of that on the >> common-lisp.net home page? Althought I should, I don't actually read >> Planet Lisp that often.
Hans> I don't actually know how to do that, and I'm also sceptical whether Hans> that page is read by many people. It would be good if that changed.
Fair enough. I do read that page once in a while, just to see what new and interesting projects show up.
Althought not related to abandoned projects, but I think some kind of wiki would be useful for common-lisp.net so that users can edit things and provide useful information (like how to configure various things), instead of depending on admins to do that.
Trac would be my preference since I'm already using trac.
Ray
A RSS feed or two for Common-Lisp.net would be very good.
One for announcing new projects.
One for announcing site news.
I'm sure both would be read by many more people than the frontpage. :)
Cheers,
-- nikodemus
On 13 May 2011 11:16, Nikodemus Siivola nikodemus@random-state.net wrote:
A RSS feed or two for Common-Lisp.net would be very good.
One for announcing new projects.
One for announcing site news.
You mean like http://common-lisp.net/rss.xml and http://common-lisp.net/recent-projects.xml? I know they are difficult to find hidden behind the big orange "RSS" buttons on the front page :P
Cheers,
drewc
I'm sure both would be read by many more people than the frontpage. :)
Cheers,
-- nikodemus
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On 13 May 2011 21:38, Drew Crampsie drewc@tech.coop wrote:
http://common-lisp.net/recent-projects.xml? I know they are difficult to find hidden behind the big orange "RSS" buttons on the front page
*blush*
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