Hi ! Sorry for asking such a stupid question. Is there any other way to download the current snapshot of CLPython? I've tried *"cvs -d :pserver:cvspublic@cvspublic.franz.com:/cvs-public login"* with password "* cvspublic*", as it was recommended. However, as a result, I receive only*"Connection refused" *from the server. I'm not sure, whether the failure is at the server's side. Can anybody confirm that this *cvs* way works. And in the case if it doesn't, can anybody be so kind to give me a hint on any alternative way of getting CLPython. By the way, how big is it? Maybe, it can be sent via email? Thanks! Al