How does CLtL3 intend to get the mindshare it needs to succeed? I have a couple of ideas, but I'm asking because I assume this may have been discussed at ILC or elsewhere.
My take:
* Don't try to sell or do too much in a single go. Don't try to eg. build a massive system of classification for libraries before you have the libraries to classify. Don't try to sell MASSIVE ideas when you can get most of the way there with a few smaller ones. Decouple ideas initially. Let them aggregate only once they have acceptance and are implemented.
* Remember to ask for what people *don't* want in addition to what they do want. This is not to say that controversial things cannot be done, but perhaps initial velocity (and trust in the projects ability to do its thing!) is best gained by focusing on the consensus.
* Even if CL is a mudball of strength, I think what CLtL3 seems to aim at needs a razor sharp focus. Someone(tm) needs to keep the reigns tight and say "out of scope for now" to everything not in focus a the moment. Until a certain momentum is there focus is everything, I think.
Cheers, and good luck!
-- Nikodemus
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 20:49 +0300, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:
How does CLtL3 intend to get the mindshare it needs to succeed? I have a couple of ideas, but I'm asking because I assume this may have been discussed at ILC or elsewhere.
By accepting everyone who's interested to partecipate. I think we can't do more than that: there's no DARPA now to threaten suspension of funding and force implementors to collaborate
My take:
- Don't try to sell or do too much in a single go. Don't try to eg.
build a massive system of classification for libraries before you have the libraries to classify. Don't try to sell MASSIVE ideas when you can get most of the way there with a few smaller ones. Decouple ideas initially. Let them aggregate only once they have acceptance and are implemented.
I think that Jochen's message summarized well the most important issues
- Remember to ask for what people *don't* want in addition to what
they do want. This is not to say that controversial things cannot be done, but perhaps initial velocity (and trust in the projects ability to do its thing!) is best gained by focusing on the consensus.
I agree
- Even if CL is a mudball of strength, I think what CLtL3 seems to aim
at needs a razor sharp focus. Someone(tm) needs to keep the reigns tight and say "out of scope for now" to everything not in focus a the moment. Until a certain momentum is there focus is everything, I think.
I agree
Cheers, and good luck!
thanks :)
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Nikodemus Siivola -
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