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38C3 lisp assembly
by noneofyourbusiness 23 Dec '24

23 Dec '24

Hello I thought that you might be interested. https://events.ccc.de/congress/2024/hub/en/assembly/lisp/ mail from fnat: https://lists.sr.ht/~technomancy/fennel/%3C87ldws962k.fsf@fabionatali.com%3E > tl;dr: This is to let you know that I've registered a Lisp assembly at > 38c3. I'm currently reaching out to various Lisp-related communities to > see if anyone is also attending 38c3 and might be interested in joining > the assembly.

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[CfP] ELS'25, 18th European Lisp Symposium, May 19-20, Zurich
by Didier Verna 10 Dec '24

10 Dec '24

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 18th European Lisp Symposium Call for Papers May 19-20 2025 SGH, Zurich, Switzerland https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2025 Sponsered by SGH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Special Focus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This year, we suggest a special focus on artifical intelligence, and meta-programming beyond macros. Invited Speakers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anurag Mendhekar Joerg Gutknecht Important Dates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Registration opens: Dec 10 2024 - Submission deadline: Mar 02 2025 - Author notification: Mar 30 2025 - Final papers due: Apr 13 2025 - Early Registration: May 04 2025 - Symposium: May 19-20 2025 Scope ~~~~~ The European Lisp Symposium is a premier forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation, and application of any of the Lisp dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, Clojure, Racket, ACL2, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, SKILL, Hy, Shen, Carp, Janet, uLisp, Picolisp, Gamelisp, TXR, and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The European Lisp Symposium invites high quality papers about novel research results, insights and lessons learned from practical applications, and educational perspectives. We also encourage submissions about known ideas as long as they are presented in a new setting and/or in a highly elegant way. Topics include but are not limited to: - context-, aspect-, domain-oriented and generative programming - macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - language design and implementation - language integration, inter-operation, and deployment - development methodologies, support, and environments - educational approaches and perspectives - experience reports and case studies Technical Program ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We invite submissions in the following forms. Papers and experience reports must not overlap significantly with the authors’ previously published work in a peer reviewed publication, and must not be under review on another journal or conference. Also, authors must agree with our publication ethics and malpractice statement (cf. https://european-lisp-symposium.org/pepms.html). * Papers: technical papers of up to 8 pages that describe original results or explain known ideas in new and elegant ways. * Experience reports: papers of up to 6 pages describing a successful use of a Lisp dialect and/or analyzing obstacles that have kept it from working in practice. * Tutorials: abstracts of up to 4 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest. * Demonstrations: abstracts of up to 4 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries, and applications. For information on the submission format, please refer to the "Submission" section at https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2025. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair at the following link: http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=els2025. Note: to help us with the review process please indicate the type of submission in the title field in the submission form. Programme Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ François-René Rideau Đặng-Vũ Bân, MuKn, USA Organizing Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Didier Verna, EPITA / LRE, France Programme Committee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Conrad Barski, USA Marc Battyani, Enfabrica, USA Dave Cooper, Genworks, USA Ryan Culpepper, University of Massachusetts Boston, USA Eitaro Fukamachi, Japan Robert Goldman, SIFT, USA Gavin Gray, Brown University, USA Jason Hemann, Seton Hall University, USA Kristopher Micinski, Syracuse University, USA Marco Morazan, Seton Hall University, USA Michael Raskin, LaBRI, France Masatoshi Sano, Nayuta, Japan Dimitris Vyzovitis, Mighty Gerbils Local Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~ Yukari Hafner, Shirakumo.org, Switzerland Virtualization Team ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Georgiy Tugai, Configura, Sweden Yukari Hafner, Shirakumo.org, Switzerland -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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CDR for Package-Local Nicknames [Feedback Request]
by Alexander Fedorov 06 Jul '24

06 Jul '24

Dear all, Over 10 years ago, SBCL implemented the Package-Local Nicknames (PLNs) extension. Since then, PLNs have also been adopted by multiple implementations (ABCL, CCL, ECL, Clasp, Allegro CL and LispWorks) and are now widely used in many projects. However, PLNs are still considered experimental, as stated in the SBCL manual, since there is no formal specification for them, and each implementation interprets various corner cases differently. While the need for a specification has been previously discussed, I was unable to find any publicly accessible draft for one. Therefore, I have drafted a specification intended to become a CDR document. I initially wrote this draft about a year ago and have recently revised it. You can find the latest version here: https://gleefre.github.io/cdr-package-local-nicknames/index.html. There are currently nine unresolved standardization issues, each with at least one proposed resolution. Input on those issues would be particularly helpful, but any feedback is welcome! P.S. I am sharing this link across multiple platforms to reach as many lispers as possible. This includes various mailing lists (Lisp Pro, CDR-discuss and -devel for various CL implementations); IRC channels (#commonlisp and implementation-specific ones); the Lisp Discord server; several Telegram groups; and a post on Reddit. If you have any suggestions for additional places to share the link, please let me know. My apologies to those receiving this message multiple times. Best regards, Alexander Fedorov.

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CDR for Package-Local Nicknames [Feedback Request]
by Alexander Fedorov 06 Jul '24

06 Jul '24

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Crash on call of cl_boot from dll init function
by jasonchandler＠pm.me 25 Jun '24

25 Jun '24

Hi, I've been having some issues booting ECL in programs where I am not in control of the main function entry. I've tried running the main program with gdb after compiling ECL with debug enabled, but I haven't gotten any useful output so far, just that cl_boot triggered an exit with code 1. I will continue to hit my head against the wall with it. It's clear that my program is crashing on cl_boot though, which I'm calling when the dll is initialized like so: char* argv; char** pargv; argv = "app"; pargv = &argv; cl_boot(1, pargv); I got this weird setup from some notes I took a number of years ago, but I can't seem to find this usage anywhere, so it might be related. Off-hand, I've also tried using cl_boot with 0 and NULL as the arguments, but the result is the same. I am using MSVC-compiled ECL and I can still call ecl_get_option(ECL_OPT_BOOTED) to see that it is clearly not already booted. Would anyone happen to know if I'm doing something obviously wrong? Thanks! Jason Chandler

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[release 24.5.10]
by Daniel Kochmański 10 May '24

10 May '24

Dear All, We've made a bugfix release that addresses some OSX issues (among other things). You may find the announcement here: https://ecl.common-lisp.dev/posts/ECL-24510-release.html Best regards, Daniel -- Daniel Kochmański ;; aka jackdaniel | Przemyśl, Poland TurtleWare - Daniel Kochmański | www.turtleware.eu "Be the change that you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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MSVC and C++
by dave＠synergy.org 07 Apr '24

07 Apr '24

Is it possible to perform C++ builds of ECL on Windows/MSVC? Thanks, Dave

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Adding include and library directories
by dave＠synergy.org 04 Apr '24

04 Apr '24

I am trying to add directories for #include directives and for linking libraries. The below text is my make.lisp file for building my code: (require 'cmp) (setf c:*user-cc-flags* "-DWXUSINGDLL") (setf c::*ecl-include-directory* "C:/Dave/wx/include,C:/Dave/wx/include/msvc") (setf c::*ecl-library-directory* "C:/Dave/wx/lib/vc_x64_dll") (compile-file "wx.lisp" :system-p t) (c:build-fasl "wx" :lisp-files '("wx.obj")) Although (setf c:*user-cc-flags* "-DWXUSINGDLL") Is working as evidenced by the argument list to run-program, there is no evidence that the include or library directories are being used at all. Moreover, the #include directive in the wx.lisp code cannot find the specified header file. How are c::*ecl-include-directory* and c::*ecl-library-directory* intended to be used? Dave

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[Last CfP] 17th European Lisp Symposium, May 6-7 2024, Vienna
by Didier Verna 18 Feb '24

18 Feb '24

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 17th European Lisp Symposium Call for Papers May 6-7 2024 Federal Computing Center, Vienna, Austria https://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/2024 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Important Dates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Submission deadline: Feb. 25 2024 ** EXTENDED ** - Author notification: Mar. 24 2024 - Final papers due: Apr. 14 2024 - Symposium: May 6-7 2024 Scope ~~~~~ The European Lisp Symposium is a premier forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation, and application of any of the Lisp dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, Clojure, Racket, ACL2, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, SKILL, Hy, Shen, Carp, Janet, uLisp, Picolisp, Gamelisp, TXR, and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The European Lisp Symposium invites high quality papers about novel research results, insights and lessons learned from practical applications, and educational perspectives. We also encourage submissions about known ideas as long as they are presented in a new setting and/or in a highly elegant way. Topics include but are not limited to: - context-, aspect-, domain-oriented and generative programming - macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - language design and implementation - language integration, inter-operation, and deployment - development methodologies, support, and environments - educational approaches and perspectives - experience reports and case studies This year, we suggest an emphasis on best practices, approaches, and technologies for building highly recursive and self-adapting architectures, in particular for AI, ML, tool integration and instruction generation, using dynamic programming languages. Technical Program ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We invite submissions in the following forms. * Papers: technical papers of up to 8 pages that describe original results or explain known ideas in new and elegant ways. * Experience reports: papers of up to 6 pages describing a successful use of a Lisp dialect and/or analyzing obstacles that have kept it from working in practice. * Tutorials: abstracts of up to 4 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest. * Demonstrations: abstracts of up to 4 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries, and applications. All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM Computing Classification System 2012 concepts and terms. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair, at the following link http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=els2024. Note: to help us with the review process please indicate the type of submission by entering either "paper", "demo", or "tutorial" in the Keywords field. Programme Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Giuseppe Attardi, University of Pisa, Italy Organizing Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Didier Verna, EPITA, France Programme Committee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant, Untypable LLC Frederic Peschanski, UPMC/LIP6 Jay McCarthy, UMass Lowell Jim Newton, EPITA Research Lab Kai Selgrad, OTH Regensburg Mark Evenson, not.org Michael Raskin, LaBRI/CNRS UMR 5800, University of Bordeaux Robert Smith, HRL Laboratories LLC Robert P. Goldman, SIFT LLC Stefan Monnier, Université de Montréal Local Chair ~~~~~~~~~~~ Philipp Marek, BRZ, Vienna, Austria Virtualization Team ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Georgiy Tugai, Configura, Sweden Michal Herda, Poland Yukari Hafner, Shirakumo.org, Switzerland -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Jazz site: http://www.didierverna.com Other sites: http://www.didierverna.info

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Command Prompt end-of-line issues
by dave＠synergy.org 23 Jan '24

23 Jan '24

Hello, I am having end-of-line issues on Windows 11 64-bit (compiled with Visual Studio 2022 v17.6.2). ECL acts like it is gobbling up end-of-line characters. For example, when I type (cons 1 2)<ENTER> at the REPL nothing happens. If I then type <ENTER>, then REPL executes the function and returns (1 . 2) as expected. If I type (quit)<ENTER> at the REPL, nothing happens. If I type <ENTER>, ECL exits and returns to the Command Prompt. This is new behavior to me, but I do not know when it began. I have never had this difficulty on Windows before. Has anyone else observed this behavior? It does not happen on Debian. David

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