IN this line :depends-on ("cffi" "lw-compat" "closer-mop" "macro-utilities" "binary-data" ) Of the file graphic-forms-uitoolkit.asd I can not find where the two libaraies "macro-utilities" "binary-data" Are in the graphic-forms folder anywhere. I have the other librairies loaded but couldn't find these in the readme.txt or in the source. Where do I get them? It seems that the Grahpic forms is trying to find them and can't well I figure if I can't find them its hard to tell it where to look. Ken