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Fwd: [graphic-forms-devel] Up and running
by Jack Unrue 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

Ken, sorry if you get this twice. I should have replied to graphic-forms-devel. -- Jack ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jack Unrue <jdunrue(a)gmail.com> Date: Aug 29, 2007 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [graphic-forms-devel] Up and running To: Ken Perry <kperry(a)blinksoft.com> On 8/29/07, Ken Perry <kperry(a)blinksoft.com> wrote: > You asked, > "After you execute (gfsys::configure-asdf) can you tell me what > asdf:*central-registry* evaluates to? Just type that fully-qualified symbol > at the REPL, and you'll get back it's value." > > Here is what I got: > > [2]> asdf:*central-registry* > ("c:/graphic-forms" NIL > "c:/graphic-formssrc/external-libraries/practicals-1.0.3/Chapter24/" > "c:/graphic-formssrc/external-libraries/practicals-1.0.3/Chapter08/" > #P"C:\\clisp-2.41\\asdf\\cffi\\" #P"C:\\clisp-2.41\\asdf\\closer-mop\\" > #P"C:\\clisp-2.41\\asdf\\lw-compat\\" *DEFAULT-PATHNAME-DEFAULTS*) > [3]> Aha, there is the problem. I think you need trailing slash in your value for *gf-dir*. You are getting paths that have "c:/graphic-formssrc/...." instead of "c:/graphic-forms/src/...." -- Jack Unrue

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Re: [graphic-forms-devel] Up and running
by Jack Unrue 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

On 8/29/07, Ken Perry <kperry(a)blinksoft.com> wrote: > Well I just did (cd) in clisp which is supposed to print the current working > directory and it says > > #P"C:\\graphic-forms\\" > > > Which I believe is where the readme told me to run the clisp in. What I > don't understand is what it is looking for when it gives me the error: > > > *** - component "binary-data" not found, required by #<SYSTEM There is a file called binary-data.asd that defines the system "binary-data". It should be located in the subdirectory src/external-libraries/practicals-1.0.3/Chapter08 which is relative to the graphic-forms top level directory. The variable *binary-data-dir* is defined in config.lisp with that relative path. After you execute (gfsys::configure-asdf) can you tell me what asdf:*central-registry* evaluates to? Just type that fully-qualified symbol at the REPL, and you'll get back it's value. -- Jack Unrue

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[graphic-forms-devel] Found them
by Ken Perry 29 Aug '07

29 Aug '07

Ok found the two libraries its complaining about under the external libraries under src. So now I will see if I can figure out why its not finding them. Ken

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[graphic-forms-devel] Is there a missing package?
by Ken Perry 29 Aug '07

29 Aug '07

IN this line :depends-on ("cffi" "lw-compat" "closer-mop" "macro-utilities" "binary-data" ) Of the file graphic-forms-uitoolkit.asd I can not find where the two libaraies "macro-utilities" "binary-data" Are in the graphic-forms folder anywhere. I have the other librairies loaded but couldn't find these in the readme.txt or in the source. Where do I get them? It seems that the Grahpic forms is trying to find them and can't well I figure if I can't find them its hard to tell it where to look. Ken

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[graphic-forms-devel] Still have problems
by Ken Perry 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

Ok I have all the packages but it still says it can't find asdf. I am betting that I have to do something other than just the darcs. How do I go about loading the asdf library? Ken

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Re: [graphic-forms-devel] Getting started
by Jack Unrue 26 Aug '07

26 Aug '07

On 8/26/07, Ken Perry <kperry(a)blinksoft.com> wrote: > > Anyway if I ever get this mess to work and figure out > lisp I will be more than willing to help. I figured I code in everything > else so why not lisp. I haven't messed with it since college and that was > in Unix. In case you didn't know, Practical Common Lisp was recently released in its entirety in PDF format by Apress. http://www.apress.com/free/content/practicalcommonlisp.pdf It's a really good book that I highly recommend if you don't already have it. -- Jack Unrue

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Re: [graphic-forms-devel] Getting started
by Jack Unrue 26 Aug '07

26 Aug '07

On 8/26/07, Ken Perry <kperry(a)blinksoft.com> wrote: > > Ok thanks I will go make sure I have the latest release. I downloaded it as > a zip from some page but I think I will just attach to the subversion and > make sure I am up to date. After that I will try that link you just sent > out in your second mail and hopefully get this working. Do you think this > will work with UFAsoft's version of lisp in the future. I only ask because > the lispworks IDE is not accessible to blind coders currently and that > leaves me out. I don't have any plans to support UFAsoft. The immediate problem is that the libraries that I need for Graphic-Forms, especially CFFI and Closer to MOP, don't support it. But also, in the past there has been some question about UFAsoft's use of CLISP as part of a proprietary product without also following the terms of the GPL (under which CLISP is licensed). So I feel little motivation to pursue a port to UFAsoft at this time. Have you tried the Allegro CL evaluation? Perhaps their IDE has better accessibility support. Speaking of which, accessibility support in Graphic-Forms is yet another item on the future todo list. If you have some knowledge of the APIs and would ever like to contribute patches, I'd be happy to review and apply them. > Also am I right to be using the clisp that comes with Cygwin or should I get > another version of it to just compile at the XP command prompt. The Cygwin version should be OK, but note that I don't test with it. I use the MinGW version, and I'm currently running version 2.41. -- Jack Unrue

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[graphic-forms-devel] Getting started
by Ken Perry 26 Aug '07

26 Aug '07

Ok I think I fixed the path problem but I just realized I don't have the required dependent libraries. I tried to download the ones in the readme but the links didn't work. Is there a new set of links for that or do I need to hunt them down on the web. Ken

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[graphic-forms-devel] Getting Started
by Ken Perry 26 Aug '07

26 Aug '07

I have downloaded the latest Graphic-forms. I have clisp on cygwin. When I try running the any of the three lisp files in graphic-forms directory (tests.lisp, config.lisp, or build.lisp) I get errors. Most of the errors show that a file doesn't exist in a certain directory. I think I have recreated the directory correctly but I am new to lisp so I am not sure if there is something I am just not doing right. Where should I have unzipped the graphic-forms directory so that the examples work. Are these even examples or should I be trying to run something else? Should I be using the clisp in Cygwin or is there a version of clisp that runs at the XP dos cmd.exe that I can download. Thanks for any help. Ken

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[graphic-forms-devel] graphic-forms-newtypes branch now obsolete
by Jack Unrue 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

I have merged the graphic-forms-newtypes branch back into mainline, and thus that branch is obsolete. Now that the CFFI project has merged their newtypes branch[1], it's no longer necessary for us to differentiate between the two flavors -- so we are back to using the mainline CFFI code. The latest CFFI from darcs works for me; please send problem reports to graphic-forms-devel if you encounter problems. -- Jack Unrue [1] The closest to an official statement on the branch status in CFFI that I could find is: http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/cl-opengl-devel/2007-June/000117.html

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