Hi all, Does anyone know why the "for ... initially/first ... then ..." etc clauses have no generator equivalents? Refer the documentation, eg http://common-lisp.net/projects/iterate/doc/Variable-Binding-and-Setting.htm... Specifically, there's an extra note that "Also, the for in the above three clauses is misleading, since none is true driver (e.g. none has a corresponding generate form). setting would have been a better choice, but for was used to retain some compatibility with loop." I cannot see why a generator style cannot be made for them too, given the simple and direct mapping of such a form to the 'for'/'setting'(whatever) version. Is this a limitation of iterate's internal macro implementation? I would appreciate any context or pointers to this issue. Yong