On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Joop Kiefte <
ikojba@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> At the moment I am gathering together all pieces of the Climacs editor to
> start an open source project to create a modular, extensible, capable and
> easy to use game-development IDE. Until I switched to Linux I have made some
> games with Game Maker, a fine but windows only piece of software that is too
> commercialized nowadays for me to like it as it is now, and I (and some
> others as well I think) have been looking for a good replacement on linux
> for quite some time. As most good programmers I am extremely lazy and don't
> like to do repetitive work if I can prevent it, and as such have skipped
> things like py-game.
> I have done a little bit of fiddling with clojure and as I see it now some
> gaming stuff is coming up for clojure as well, but I didn't feel like gaming
> is the perfect bet for clojure. Now I am programming for a small company in
> common lisp and doing that I feel like I need some open source project to
> keep in shape on common lisp on the side line. So I thought, let's make a
> game maker clone!
> I am not going to make things from scratch, it won't be useful to do and
> besides, if there is nothing to build upon, we won't even get started. So I
> thought this might be a perfect use for climacs. It might even be a revival
> of the climacs project if you like. Gamemacs is just a working name (and a
> bit more, as I will explain later), I mean to contribute to the several
> sub-projects and with normal add-ons as much as possible, to keep everything
> as modular as possible.
> To not keep things vague, and to have a good direction, this is a list of
> things I want to have for a nice game-editor (and in general to make of
> Climacs an emacs-killer instead of an emacs-clone), most of it taken from
> Game Maker:
> * Integration of something like Lispbuilder (most probably just
> Lispbuilder).
> - It has SDL
> - It has OpenGL
> - It has an .exe-creator/binary compiler
> * Integration of the .exe-creator/binary compiler in the editor itself
> * Publish versions of Climacs compiled that way to make further development
> easier
> - so for basic development of games you don't even need to install
> anything else than that compiled version of climacs
> - we can call this compiled package with extensions Gamemacs, and keep the
> source pure climacs, so it remains as modular as it can be
> * I would like to have a generic graphical editor for lisp-code on top of
> the textual editing mode.
> - and this to be extensible with cool graphical editors for example to
> create levels (I think I will need to make a mock-up of this idea to get it
> clear)
> * Create libraries for game-development that are included by default and
> work nicely with the graphical interface so you will be able to make simple
> games with mostly point and click and harder games with a great emacs-like
> editor :)
> I have all this quite detailed in my head, but after dumping it all here I
> want your input as well, so it will be great to work with. In the end my
> goal is to have fun creating games on linux and to be able to sketch and
> prototype and build games all in one place. (If you can develop everything
> for emacs in emacs without leaving it, why shouldn't you be able to create
> games without hassle?)
> First things I will do anyhow (but help is appreciated on all sides!):
> * Put all the dependencies of climacs on Git
> * Build climacs and fiddle with it to get accustomed to the inner workings
> * Same with lispbuilder etc.
> What do you think?
> Greetings,
> Joop Kiefte
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