[lisp-game-dev] warning about lisp games and DoD "intellectual property"
I thought the Lisp games community should know that someone on the Boston Lisp meeting contacted me privately in response to my post about the presentation I'm planning for later this year (see threads below). You may wish to be careful in discussing Lisp with people who are (or claim to be) former contractors for the US Department of Defense, and I urge you protect yourselves and to do your own research. That is all for now. http://lists.common-lisp.net/pipermail/boston-lisp/2011-July/thread.html
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM, David O'Toole <dto1138@gmail.com> wrote:
You may wish to be careful in discussing Lisp with people who are (or claim to be) former contractors for the US Department of Defense, and I urge you protect yourselves and to do your own research.
Why? -Shawn
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Shawn Betts <sabetts@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM, David O'Toole <dto1138@gmail.com> wrote:
You may wish to be careful in discussing Lisp with people who are (or claim to be) former contractors for the US Department of Defense, and I urge you protect yourselves and to do your own research.
Why?
What the hell is going on here? David's email addresses are rejecting mail, and his blog(s), github repos, youtube videos, and various online profiles have all been taken down. I thought this was about someone else's potentially confidential information, not David's. Did I miss something? Anyone else have any leads here? -- Elliott Slaughter "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Elliott Slaughter <elliottslaughter@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Shawn Betts <sabetts@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM, David O'Toole <dto1138@gmail.com> wrote:
You may wish to be careful in discussing Lisp with people who are (or claim to be) former contractors for the US Department of Defense, and I urge you protect yourselves and to do your own research.
Why?
What the hell is going on here? David's email addresses are rejecting mail, and his blog(s), github repos, youtube videos, and various online profiles have all been taken down. I thought this was about someone else's potentially confidential information, not David's. Did I miss something? Anyone else have any leads here?
My last contact with him was 8 days ago when all this happened. Haven't heard from him since. Weird. -Shawn
Man… this is weird. Some Google sleuthing turns up his Wikipedia profile which says he lives in Northborough, MA. And, then whitepages.com gives: David T Otoole (508) 393-2210 39 Whitney St Northborough, MA 01532-1429 I've never interacted with him in except for doing a last-minute entry in the Spring 2010 Lisp Games Jam. But, I'm considering trying to call. If one of you knows him better, I'll defer so we don't all bug him. My best guess from the cryptic message from the 24th there is that somehow David ended up under DoD investigation because of something someone else shared with him? Or because David had been a DoD contractor at some point in the past and in talking with some more recent contractor gave the impression that he has been able to use stuff he learned while DoD? I have no idea. But, I'm concerned. … Patrick On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Shawn Betts wrote:
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Elliott Slaughter <elliottslaughter@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM, David O'Toole <dto1138@gmail.com> wrote:
You may wish to be careful in discussing Lisp with people who are (or claim to be) former contractors for the US Department of Defense, and I urge you protect yourselves and to do your own research.
What the hell is going on here? David's email addresses are rejecting mail, and his blog(s), github repos, youtube videos, and various online profiles have all been taken down. I thought this was about someone else's potentially confidential information, not David's. Did I miss something? Anyone else have any leads here?
My last contact with him was 8 days ago when all this happened. Haven't heard from him since. Weird.
Patrick Stein wrote:
My best guess from the cryptic message from the 24th there is that somehow David ended up under DoD investigation because of something someone else shared with him? Or because David had been a DoD contractor at some point in the past and in talking with some more recent contractor gave the impression that he has been able to use stuff he learned while DoD? I have no idea. But, I'm concerned.
I also did some digging around and the only really pertinent thing I could find was: http://cryptome.org/0005/dod-lisp-sol.htm //Ingvar
Probably good news. Someone identifying themselves as David posted to Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/j4qr2/what_has_happened_to_david_otool... On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Ingvar <ingvar@hexapodia.net> wrote:
My best guess from the cryptic message from the 24th there is that somehow David ended up under DoD investigation because of something someone else shared with him? Or because David had been a DoD contractor at some
Patrick Stein wrote: point
in the past and in talking with some more recent contractor gave the impression that he has been able to use stuff he learned while DoD? I have no idea. But, I'm concerned.
I also did some digging around and the only really pertinent thing I could find was: http://cryptome.org/0005/dod-lisp-sol.htm
//Ingvar
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On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Zach wrote:
Probably good news. Someone identifying themselves as David posted to Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/j4qr2/what_has_happened_to_david_otool...
Hope so… but taking down his blog, his YouTube videos, his Github repos, his GMail account, etc. sounds like more than "Internet issues". … Patrick
On 31 jul. 2011, at 18:20, Zach <elzacho@gmail.com> wrote: Probably good news. Someone identifying themselves as David posted to Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/j4qr2/what_has_happened_to_david_otool...
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Ingvar <ingvar@hexapodia.net> wrote: Patrick Stein wrote:
My best guess from the cryptic message from the 24th there is that somehow David ended up under DoD investigation because of something someone else shared with him? Or because David had been a DoD contractor at some point in the past and in talking with some more recent contractor gave the impression that he has been able to use stuff he learned while DoD? I have no idea. But, I'm concerned.
I also did some digging around and the only really pertinent thing I could find was: http://cryptome.org/0005/dod-lisp-sol.htm
//Ingvar
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On 31 jul. 2011, at 18:20, Zach <elzacho@gmail.com> wrote:
Probably good news. Someone identifying themselves as David posted to Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/j4qr2/what_has_happened_to_david_otool...
Looks like a joker.
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