Sorry for what might be either a Stupid Newbie Question or Pilot Error: I am trying to implement a frame that allows "form-like" pop-editing of a CL data structure which include strings. How can I initialize the text fields and text editors? If I do what seems like the recommended thing according to the Harlequin CLIM manual -- a :before method on run-frame-top-level, it seems like maybe some goatee buffer pointer is not initialized until after the primary run-frame-top-level method gets called. (I made my own :around run-frame-top-level method, and the setf gadget-value, in fact, succeeds after the (call-next-method) has run -- but of course that's a little late for me.) The attached lisp program seems to exhibit the symptoms: the "test1" command works as expected and sets the value, but the :before method does not seem to. I only tried this under Linux (CentOS 4.4) on a relatively recent SBCL (0.9.14 RPM), using a relatively recent McCLIM (CVS updated approx Sept 15th). If anybody would please suggest further experiments, I would carry them out post-haste. Sorry if this is a stupid mechanical question: also, is there a stylistically better way to do this? Thanks, -jm -- ==== John Morrison ==== MAK Technologies Inc. ==== 68 Moulton Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 ==== http://www.mak.com/ ==== vox:617-876-8085 x115 ==== fax:617-876-9208 ==== jm@mak.com