Von: Robert Strandh strandh@labri.fr Datum: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:22:17 +0200 An: Duncan Rose duncan@robotcat.demon.co.uk Cc: McCLIM mcclim-devel@common-lisp.net Betreff: Re: [mcclim-devel] incremental redisplay and with-first-quadrant-coordinates
Duncan Rose writes:
Don't both Lispworks and Franz already have 'CLIM 2.2'?
Oh, OK, 2.3 then :-)
Do we need to take the vendor CLIMs into account at all?
I seriously doubt it. As far as the vendors are concerned, CLIM is dead.
Almost. Some applications are still using CLIM.
The last change that happened was that some people bought CLIM source rights (Alice Hartley of Digitool is one of those). Consequently Digitool offers a CLIM version that is also available with full sources.
Both Franz and LispWorks are fixing bugs sometimes, but are not investing into new work with CLIM. Franz now ports ist toolkit from Windows to Linux and LispWorks does only CAPI anyway.
I'm currently putting together a document comparing the methods in the spec, the different user guides, and as implemented in McCLIM but it's slow going. Perhaps it will be useful one day.
Definitely!
-- Robert Strandh
Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp.
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