[mcclim-devel] (statusp cocoa-port)

What's the current status on the Cocoa backend for McCLIM? I have an all Mac environment now, and I'd like to hack on Climacs a bit. But I'd rather have it running in Cocoa than in X. Is the Cocoa port working, for some suitable value of working? Or is it basically dead? If the latter, what needs to be done to ressurect it? Thanks, James

James Crippen <jcrippen@gmail.com> writes:
What's the current status on the Cocoa backend for McCLIM? I have an all Mac environment now, and I'd like to hack on Climacs a bit. But I'd rather have it running in Cocoa than in X. Is the Cocoa port working, for some suitable value of working? Or is it basically dead? If the latter, what needs to be done to ressurect it?
If you mean the Beagle backend in Backend/beagle, Duncan Rose is working on it and you can find some information on its status in README.txt. Paolo -- Lisp Propulsion Laboratory log - http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log

On Saturday, October 22, 2005, at 11:12 am, Paolo Amoroso wrote:
James Crippen <jcrippen@gmail.com> writes:
What's the current status on the Cocoa backend for McCLIM? I have an all Mac environment now, and I'd like to hack on Climacs a bit. But I'd rather have it running in Cocoa than in X. Is the Cocoa port working, for some suitable value of working? Or is it basically dead? If the latter, what needs to be done to ressurect it?
If you mean the Beagle backend in Backend/beagle, Duncan Rose is working on it and you can find some information on its status in README.txt.
I've been a bit lax of late unfortunately; the necessary changes wrt text sizing Christophe added to McCLIM haven't been implemented and none of the other changes since then have been tested. I don't think it should take much to get it back to the state it was in a while ago (i.e. working for most things but slow and buggy). -Duncan
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Does it work with the released OpenMCL 1.0? It would cool if it would. Regards, Rainer
Von: Duncan Rose <duncan@robotcat.demon.co.uk> Datum: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:31:48 +0100 An: Paolo Amoroso <amoroso@mclink.it> Cc: <mcclim-devel@common-lisp.net> Betreff: Re: [mcclim-devel] (statusp cocoa-port)
On Saturday, October 22, 2005, at 11:12 am, Paolo Amoroso wrote:
James Crippen <jcrippen@gmail.com> writes:
What's the current status on the Cocoa backend for McCLIM? I have an all Mac environment now, and I'd like to hack on Climacs a bit. But I'd rather have it running in Cocoa than in X. Is the Cocoa port working, for some suitable value of working? Or is it basically dead? If the latter, what needs to be done to ressurect it?
If you mean the Beagle backend in Backend/beagle, Duncan Rose is working on it and you can find some information on its status in README.txt.
I've been a bit lax of late unfortunately; the necessary changes wrt text sizing Christophe added to McCLIM haven't been implemented and none of the other changes since then have been tested.
I don't think it should take much to get it back to the state it was in a while ago (i.e. working for most things but slow and buggy).
-Duncan
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On Sunday, October 23, 2005, at 12:27 am, Rainer Joswig wrote:
Does it work with the released OpenMCL 1.0? It would cool if it would.
I haven't tried McCLIM / Beagle / OpenMCL 1.0 together so I have no idea if it works or not. Perhaps somebody else has. Nor am I aware of any fixes that would sort out the problems running Beagle on Tiger throws out (last I heard Beagle did NOT work on 10.4). -Duncan
Regards,
Rainer

Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:56:19 +0100 From: Duncan Rose <duncan@robotcat.demon.co.uk> I haven't tried McCLIM / Beagle / OpenMCL 1.0 together so I have no idea if it works or not. Perhaps somebody else has. Nor am I aware of any fixes that would sort out the problems running Beagle on Tiger throws out (last I heard Beagle did NOT work on 10.4). I haven't tried OpenMCL 1.0, but Beagle definitely did work on Tiger, at least until Christophe Rhodes introduced the TEXT-BOUNDING-RECTANGLE stuff that broke it: <http://mumble.net/~campbell/images/mcclim-beagle-porn.png> ...although it took several tries and about an hour to make that image. But it works, albeit very slowly and flakily.

James Crippen <jcrippen@gmail.com> writes:
What's the current status on the Cocoa backend for McCLIM? I have an
Some Beagle-related entries from my blog: McCLIM changes: Beagle Backend, Freetype bindings, command processing http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log/050627.html McCLIM changes: Beagle backend and Freetype bindings http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log/050610.html McCLIM changes: font metrics, bounding, events in Beagle backend http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log/050529.html McCLIM changes: Beagle backend, incremental redisplay http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log/050518.html Update on McCLIM's Beagle backend http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log/040822.html Paolo -- Lisp Propulsion Laboratory log - http://www.paoloamoroso.it/log
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