I've packaged McCLIM for Fedora at: http://yum.octopodial-chrome.com/packages/cl-mcclim Probably the easiest thing to do is to install the octopodial-chrome package and then run 'yum install cl-mcclim.' -- Robert Uhl <http://public.xdi.org/=ruhl> Man, the creature who knows he must die, who has dreams larger than his destiny, who is forever working a confidence trick on himself, needs an ally. Mine has been tobacco. --John Boynton Priestley