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[rfc] manual changes
by Daniel Kochmański 14 Feb '26

14 Feb '26

Dear All, I've recently started working a bit on improving McCLIM manual and wrote initial versions of two sections: Development history old: https://mcclim.common-lisp.dev/static/documents/d35e5b1-mcclim-doc-current.… new: https://mcclim.common-lisp.dev/static/documents/3d6249-mcclim-doc-sketch.ht… Time between 2002 and 2016 is based on git history and very helpful comments from Christophe Rhodes and Gilbert Baumann. It is a draft and I'm writing here to ask old timers to comment on adequacy from the historical perspective (if anyone can recall) and whether people are correctly attributed. I did my best to balance contribution importance based on little info I had. I've also rebalanced a bit years 2000-2002 to focus less on Gsharp (but still preserve all attributions) and more on the codebase merge and presentation system development. As much as I'd like to, it is hard to be objective about recent years 2016-2026 given my constant involvement, so if you have a different perspective then please offer corrections. Please write on the mailing list what do you think of it and suggest further improvements if there are any. Getting Started old: https://mcclim.common-lisp.dev/static/documents/d35e5b1-mcclim-doc-current.… new: https://mcclim.common-lisp.dev/static/documents/3d6249-mcclim-doc-sketch.ht… I've also written an new Getting Started section. Instead of a few disconnected toy applications I've tried to describe one that covers clim-specific basics - frames, presentation types, commands and translators. Gathering feedback on this is also important to me. Thank you, Daniel -- Daniel Kochmański ;; aka jackdaniel | Przemyśl, Poland TurtleWare - Daniel Kochmański | www.turtleware.eu "Be the change that you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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Re: [rfc] manual changes - file selector
by John Carroll 13 Feb '26

13 Feb '26

On Friday, February 13th, 2026 at 08:52, Daniel Kochmański <daniel(a)turtleware.eu> wrote: >> By the way, does McCLIM have a file selector? > >Not that I'm aware of. Perhaps it was scrapped at some point. Writing a basic >gadget for that purpose wouldn't be very hard though - polishing it would be. >For example clim-listener already has presentation-based file explorer -- >subsequent directories are presented after each command, but that could be >rehashed to be put in a single redisplaying output block in a dialog I think. I've developed a file selector dialog for McCLIM. It's in Quicklisp as "select-file". (It also works in Franz Allegro CLIM since my application is multi-platform). Unfortunately, it's a little out of date now since (for various boring reasons) I'm still on McCLIM of March 2024. Also, it's not a gadget as such but an implementation of the function select-file in the Franz Inc CLIM 2 User Guide section 19.4 – with a much more attractive and usable interface than the Franz version. Here's a screenshot so you can see what it looks like and get an idea of how to interact with it: https://users.sussex.ac.uk/~johnca/selectfile.png Perhaps some of the code could be repurposed to make a gadget. John

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install fails
by James Cloos 02 Feb '26

02 Feb '26

using |(ql:quickload "mcclim")| on an up to date gentoo ~amd64 box with sbcl-2.6.0 fails. x11-libs/libX11 is 1.8.12. the error report is: [package mcclim-bidi].; ; caught ERROR: ; READ error during COMPILE-FILE: ; ; The symbol "RENDER-SET-PICTURE-TRANSFORM" is not external in the XLIB package. ; ; Line: 73, Column: 48, File-Position: 2981 ; ; Stream: #<SB-INT:FORM-TRACKING-STREAM for "file /home/cloos/quicklisp/dists/quicklisp/software/mcclim-20260101-git/Backends/CLX/drawing.lisp" {12032D0003}> debugger invoked on a UIOP/LISP-BUILD:COMPILE-FILE-ERROR in thread #<THREAD tid=27300 "main thread" RUNNING {1200030003}>: COMPILE-FILE-ERROR while compiling #<CL-SOURCE-FILE "mcclim-clx" "output" "drawing"> Type HELP for debugger help, or (SB-EXT:EXIT) to exit from SBCL. ... (restarts elided) ... (UIOP/LISP-BUILD:CHECK-LISP-COMPILE-RESULTS NIL T T "~/asdf-action::format-action/" ((#<ASDF/LISP-ACTION:COMPILE-OP > . #<ASDF/LISP-ACTION:CL-SOURCE-FILE "mcclim-clx" "output" "drawing">))) source: (ERROR 'COMPILE-FILE-ERROR :CONTEXT-FORMAT CONTEXT-FORMAT :CONTEXT-ARGUMENTS CONTEXT-ARGUMENTS) -JimC -- James Cloos <cloos(a)jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: https://jhcloos.com/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc

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