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[munich-lisp] [CfPart] 6th European Lisp Workshop at ECOOP, July 6th 2009
by Didier Verna 18 May '09

18 May '09

Apologies for multiple reception. Please forward, to any person you think might be interested. +------------------------------------------------------------+ | CALL FOR PARTICIPATION | | 6th European Lisp Workshop | | July 6, Genova, Italy - co-located with ECOOP 2009 | | http://elw.bknr.net/2009 | +------------------------------------------------------------+ Important Dates =============== ECOOP early registration deadline: May 20, 2009 ECOOP late registration deadline: July 03, 2009 6th European Lisp Workshop: July 06, 2009 Please note that registration must be done with ECOOP itself. There is a reduced registration fee for workshop-only attendance. The early registration deadline is in two days, so register now! See http://ecoop09.disi.unige.it/ for details. 2009 Special News ================= * Edi Weitz will give a keynote address on the use of his notorious open source libraries in commercial / industrial application. * The workshop is sponsored by ITA Software, Inc. Please visit them at http://www.itasoftware.com/ * This year, and for the first time, the workshop proceedings will be published in the ACM Digital Library. Overview ======== "...Please don't assume Lisp is only useful for Animation and Graphics, AI, Bio-informatics, B2B and E-Commerce, Data Mining, EDA/Semiconductor applications, Expert Systems, Finance, Intelligent Agents, Knowledge Management, Mechanical CAD, Modeling and Simulation, Natural Language, Optimization, Research, Risk Analysis, Scheduling, Telecom, and Web Authoring just because these are the only things they happened to list." -- Kent Pitman Lisp, one of the eldest computer languages still in use today, is gaining momentum again. The structure of Lisp makes it easy to extend the language or even to implement entirely new dialects without starting from scratch, making it the ideal candidate for writing Domain Specific Languages. Common Lisp, with the Common Lisp Object System (CLOS), was the first object-oriented programming language to receive an ANSI standard and retains the most complete and advanced object system of any programming language, while influencing many other object-oriented programming languages that followed. This workshop will address the near-future role of Lisp-based languages in research, industry and education. We solicit contributions that discuss the opportunities Lisp provides to capture and enhance the possibilities in software engineering. We want to promote lively discussion between researchers proposing new approaches and practitioners reporting on their experience with the strengths and limitations of current Lisp technologies. Programme ========= In addition to Edi Weitz's keynote address, the workshop will feature: - technical papers on tools to interface modelling in biology, an infrastructure for offline work in web applications and a denotational semantics for modelling the class relationships of CLOS and its MOP, - tutorials on filtered dispatch and SWCLOS, a semantic web processor. Please visit the workshop's website in the next few days for a more detailed description. Organizers ========== Didier Verna, EPITA Research and Development Laboratory, Paris Charlotte Herzeel, Programming Technology Lab, Vrije Universiteit, Brussel Robert Strandh, LaBRI, University of Bordeaux I, France Christophe Rhodes, Goldsmiths College, University of London Hans Hübner, Software Developer, Berlin -- Scientific site: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier Music (Jazz) site: http://www.didierverna.com EPITA/LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire, 94276 Le Kremlin-Bicêtre, France Tel. +33 (0)1 44 08 01 85 Fax. +33 (0)1 53 14 59 22

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[munich-lisp] ELS 09
by Tobias C. Rittweiler 09 May '09

09 May '09

Who's going to the European Lisp Symposium in end of May? And by what means do you plan to travel? I'm interested in going, but I wouldn't want to go just by myself. :-) -T. -- Diese Nachricht wurde auf Viren und andere gefaerliche Inhalte untersucht und ist - aktuelle Virenscanner vorausgesetzt - sauber. Freebits E-Mail Virus Scanner

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[munich-lisp] New CL book
by Marek Kubica 07 May '09

07 May '09

Hi, In case you haven't seen it already: <http://enlivend.livejournal.com/10136.html> regards, Marek

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[munich-lisp] Last CFP: Trends in Functional Programming
by Horváth Zoltán 05 May '09

05 May '09

Last call for papers 10th SYMPOSIUM ON TRENDS IN FUNCTIONAL PROGRAMMING TFP 2009 SELYE JANOS UNIVERSITY, KOMARNO, SLOVAKIA June 2-4, 2009 http://www.inf.elte.hu/tfp_cefp_2009 *** Submission deadline extended until 10th of May! *** The symposium on Trends in Functional Programming (TFP) is an international forum for researchers with interests in all aspects of functional programming languages, focusing on providing a broad view of current and future trends in Functional Programming. It aspires to be a lively environment for presenting the latest research results. Acceptance for the conference is based on full papers or extended abstracts, and a formal post-symposium refereeing process selects the best articles presented at the symposium for publication in a high-profile volume. TFP 2009 is hosted by the Selye Janos University, Komarno, Slovakia, and it is co-located with the 3rd Central-European Functional Programming School (CEFP 2009), which is held immediately before TFP 2009 (May 25-30). IMPORTANT DATES (ALL 2009) * Paper Submission: May 10 (extended) * Notification of Acceptance: May 12 * Camera Ready Symposium Proceedings Paper: May 14 * TFP Symposium: June 2-4, 2009 * Post Symposium Paper Submission: June 30 * Notification of Acceptance: September 7 * Camera Ready Revised Paper: September 21 SCOPE OF THE SYMPOSIUM As part of the Symposium's focus on trends we therefore identify the following five article categories. High-quality articles are solicited in any of these categories: * Research: leading-edge, previously unpublished research. * Position: on what new trends should or should not be. * Project: descriptions of recently started new projects. * Evaluation: what lessons can be drawn from a finished project. * Overview: summarizing work with respect to a trendy subject. Articles must be original and not submitted for simultaneous publication to any other forum. They may consider any aspect of functional programming: theoretical, implementation-oriented, or more experience- oriented. Applications of functional programming techniques to other languages are also within the scope of the symposium. Contributions on the following subject areas are particularly welcomed: * Dependently Typed Functional Programming * Validation and Verification of Functional Programs * Debugging for Functional Languages * Functional Programming and Security * Functional Programming and Mobility * Functional Programming to Animate/Prototype/Implement Systems from Formal or Semi-Formal Specifications * Functional Languages for Telecommunications Applications * Functional Languages for Embedded Systems * Functional Programming Applied to Global Computing * Functional GRIDs * Functional Programming Ideas in Imperative or Object-Oriented Settings (and the converse) * Interoperability with Imperative Programming Languages * Novel Memory Management Techniques * Parallel/Concurrent Functional Languages * Program Transformation Techniques * Empirical Performance Studies * Abstract/Virtual Machines and Compilers for Functional Languages * New Implementation Strategies * Any new emerging trend in the functional programming area If you are in doubt on whether your article is within the scope of TFP, please contact the TFP 2009 program chairs, Zoltan Horvath and Viktoria Zsok at tfp2009(a)inf.elte.hu<mailto:tfp2009@inf.elte.hu> SUBMISSION AND DRAFT PROCEEDINGS Acceptance of articles for presentation at the symposium is based on the screening process of full papers (15 pages) and extended abstracts (at least 3 pages). TFP encourages PhD students to submit papers. PhD students may request the program committee to provide extensive feedback on their full papers at the time of submission. Full papers describing work accepted for presentation must be completed before the symposium for publication in the draft proceedings. Further details can be found at the TFP 2009 website. POST-SYMPOSIUM REFEREEING AND PUBLICATION In addition to the draft symposium proceedings, we continue the TFP tradition of publishing a high-quality subset of contributions in the Intellect series on Trends in Functional Programming. PROGRAM COMMITTEE * Peter Achten (symp-chair), Radboud University Nijmegen, NL * John Clements, California Polytechnic State University, USA * Cormac Flanagan, University of California at Santa Cruz, USA * Jurriaan Hage, Utrecht University, NL * Kevin Hammond, University of St. Andrews, UK * Michael Hanus, Christian-Albrechts University zu Kiel, DE * Ralf Hinze, University of Oxford, UK * Zoltan Horvath (PC co-chair), Eotvos Lorand University, HU * Graham Hutton, University of Nottingham, UK * Johan Jeuring, Utrecht University, NL * Pieter Koopman (symp-chair), Radboud University Nijmegen, NL * Hans-Wolfgang Loidl, Ludwig-Maximilians University Munchen, DE * Rita Loogen, Philipps-University Marburg, DE * Greg Michaelson, Heriot-Watt University, UK * Marco T. Morazan, Seton Hall University, USA * Rex L Page, University of Oklahoma, USA * Sven-Bodo Scholz, University of Hertfordshire, UK * Clara Segura, University Complutense de Madrid, ES * Mary Sheeran, Chalmers University of Technology, SE * Phil Trinder, Heriot-Watt University, UK * Marko van Eekelen, Radboud University Nijmegen, NL * Varmo Vene, University of Tartu, EE * Viktoria Zsok (PC co-chair), Eotvos Lorand University, HU LOCATION The Conference Centre of Selye University, Komarno, Slovakia (http://www.selyeuni.sk/) is a new and excellent conference centre with modern equipment, lecture rooms and computer labs. Komarno is on the north bank of river Danube, the northern part of the city Komarom / Komarno. It is a charming old city with about 30 000 inhabitants, 90 km away from Budapest (the capital of Hungary), with good highway and railway connections and 90 km away from Bratislava (the capital of Slovakia), about 100 km from Vienna International Airport.

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[munich-lisp] Reminder: meeting in april
by Marek Kubica 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Hi, I know that it is late but I wanted to remind you that the munich-lisp meeting is taking place today, 19:00 at the LMU. regards, Marek

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[munich-lisp] New Room?
by Andreas Hauser 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Hoi, first welcome to the all the new people, that got attracted by the Scheme talk, and thanks to Marek for giving it. As some of you might already know, I'm now with the Gene Center of the University (doing Scientific Computing/Cluster stuff), which is in Großhadern. As I can probably get a much nicer room there, I wanted to hear some opinions on where the next meetings should be. Bringing this up yesterday, people also offered some other locations. CIS, Tvivolistr. (where we used to meet) Gene Center, Feodor-Lynen-Str. 25 Physical Departement Theresienstr. CCC München, Club Room in Giesing Please add your votes to the wiki by incrementing the number inside the brackets before the entry under "Discussion of new Location", like changing e.g. [1] into [2]. -- Andy

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[munich-lisp] CFP Trends in Functional Programming
by Horváth Zoltán 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Third call for papers 10th SYMPOSIUM ON TRENDS IN FUNCTIONAL PROGRAMMING TFP 2009 SELYE JANOS UNIVERSITY, KOMARNO, SLOVAKIA June 2-4, 2009 http://www.inf.elte.hu/tfp_cefp_2009 *** Submission deadline extended until 10th of May! *** The symposium on Trends in Functional Programming (TFP) is an international forum for researchers with interests in all aspects of functional programming languages, focusing on providing a broad view of current and future trends in Functional Programming. It aspires to be a lively environment for presenting the latest research results. Acceptance for the conference is based on full papers or extended abstracts, and a formal post-symposium refereeing process selects the best articles presented at the symposium for publication in a high-profile volume. TFP 2009 is hosted by the Selye Janos University, Komarno, Slovakia, and it is co-located with the 3rd Central-European Functional Programming School (CEFP 2009), which is held immediately before TFP 2009 (May 25-30). IMPORTANT DATES (ALL 2009) * Paper Submission: May 10 (extended) * Notification of Acceptance: May 12 * Camera Ready Symposium Proceedings Paper: May 14 * TFP Symposium: June 2-4, 2009 * Post Symposium Paper Submission: June 30 * Notification of Acceptance: September 7 * Camera Ready Revised Paper: September 21 SCOPE OF THE SYMPOSIUM As part of the Symposium's focus on trends we therefore identify the following five article categories. High-quality articles are solicited in any of these categories: * Research: leading-edge, previously unpublished research. * Position: on what new trends should or should not be. * Project: descriptions of recently started new projects. * Evaluation: what lessons can be drawn from a finished project. * Overview: summarizing work with respect to a trendy subject. Articles must be original and not submitted for simultaneous publication to any other forum. They may consider any aspect of functional programming: theoretical, implementation-oriented, or more experience- oriented. Applications of functional programming techniques to other languages are also within the scope of the symposium. Contributions on the following subject areas are particularly welcomed: * Dependently Typed Functional Programming * Validation and Verification of Functional Programs * Debugging for Functional Languages * Functional Programming and Security * Functional Programming and Mobility * Functional Programming to Animate/Prototype/Implement Systems from Formal or Semi-Formal Specifications * Functional Languages for Telecommunications Applications * Functional Languages for Embedded Systems * Functional Programming Applied to Global Computing * Functional GRIDs * Functional Programming Ideas in Imperative or Object-Oriented Settings (and the converse) * Interoperability with Imperative Programming Languages * Novel Memory Management Techniques * Parallel/Concurrent Functional Languages * Program Transformation Techniques * Empirical Performance Studies * Abstract/Virtual Machines and Compilers for Functional Languages * New Implementation Strategies * Any new emerging trend in the functional programming area If you are in doubt on whether your article is within the scope of TFP, please contact the TFP 2009 program chairs, Zoltan Horvath and Viktoria Zsok at tfp2009(a)inf.elte.hu<mailto:tfp2009@inf.elte.hu> SUBMISSION AND DRAFT PROCEEDINGS Acceptance of articles for presentation at the symposium is based on the screening process of full papers (15 pages) and extended abstracts (at least 3 pages). TFP encourages PhD students to submit papers. PhD students may request the program committee to provide extensive feedback on their full papers at the time of submission. Full papers describing work accepted for presentation must be completed before the symposium for publication in the draft proceedings. Further details can be found at the TFP 2009 website. POST-SYMPOSIUM REFEREEING AND PUBLICATION In addition to the draft symposium proceedings, we continue the TFP tradition of publishing a high-quality subset of contributions in the Intellect series on Trends in Functional Programming. PROGRAM COMMITTEE * Peter Achten (symp-chair), Radboud University Nijmegen, NL * John Clements, California Polytechnic State University, USA * Cormac Flanagan, University of California at Santa Cruz, USA * Jurriaan Hage, Utrecht University, NL * Kevin Hammond, University of St. Andrews, UK * Michael Hanus, Christian-Albrechts University zu Kiel, DE * Ralf Hinze, University of Oxford, UK * Zoltan Horvath (PC co-chair), Eotvos Lorand University, HU * Graham Hutton, University of Nottingham, UK * Johan Jeuring, Utrecht University, NL * Pieter Koopman (symp-chair), Radboud University Nijmegen, NL * Hans-Wolfgang Loidl, Ludwig-Maximilians University Munchen, DE * Rita Loogen, Philipps-University Marburg, DE * Greg Michaelson, Heriot-Watt University, UK * Marco T. Morazan, Seton Hall University, USA * Rex L Page, University of Oklahoma, USA * Sven-Bodo Scholz, University of Hertfordshire, UK * Clara Segura, University Complutense de Madrid, ES * Mary Sheeran, Chalmers University of Technology, SE * Phil Trinder, Heriot-Watt University, UK * Marko van Eekelen, Radboud University Nijmegen, NL * Varmo Vene, University of Tartu, EE * Viktoria Zsok (PC co-chair), Eotvos Lorand University, HU LOCATION The Conference Centre of Selye University, Komarno, Slovakia (http://www.selyeuni.sk/) is a new and excellent conference centre with modern equipment, lecture rooms and computer labs. Komarno is on the north bank of river Danube, the northern part of the city Komarom / Komarno. It is a charming old city with about 30 000 inhabitants, 90 km away from Budapest (the capital of Hungary), with good highway and railway connections and 90 km away from Bratislava (the capital of Slovakia), about 100 km from Vienna International Airport.

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[munich-lisp] DEADLINE EXTENSION: 6th European Lisp Workshop at ECOOP, July 6 2009
by Didier Verna 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Dear colleagues, upon request from several potential contributors, we have postponed the submission deadline for the 6th European Lisp Workshop by two weeks. The new deadline is now April 22nd. +------------------------------------------------------------+ | CALL FOR PAPERS | | 6th European Lisp Workshop | | July 6, Genova, Italy - co-located with ECOOP 2009 | +------------------------------------------------------------+ Important Dates =============== Submission deadline: April 22, 2009 (EXTENDED) Notification of acceptance: May 08, 2009 ECOOP early registration deadline: May 20, 2009 6th European Lisp Workshop: July 06, 2009 Please note that registration must be done with ECOOP itself. For more information visit http://elw.bknr.net/2009 Contact: Didier Verna, didier(a)lrde.epita.fr 2009 Special News ================= This year, and for the first time, the workshop proceedings will be published in the ACM Digital Library. Also, the workshop will feature interactive tutorial/demo/coding sessions (see below). Overview ======== "...Please don't assume Lisp is only useful for Animation and Graphics, AI, Bio-informatics, B2B and E-Commerce, Data Mining, EDA/Semiconductor applications, Expert Systems, Finance, Intelligent Agents, Knowledge Management, Mechanical CAD, Modeling and Simulation, Natural Language, Optimization, Research, Risk Analysis, Scheduling, Telecom, and Web Authoring just because these are the only things they happened to list." -- Kent Pitman Lisp, one of the eldest computer languages still in use today, is gaining momentum again. The structure of Lisp makes it easy to extend the language or even to implement entirely new dialects without starting from scratch, making it the ideal candidate for writing Domain Specific Languages. Common Lisp, with the Common Lisp Object System (CLOS), was the first object-oriented programming language to receive an ANSI standard and retains the most complete and advanced object system of any programming language, while influencing many other object-oriented programming languages that followed. This workshop will address the near-future role of Lisp-based languages in research, industry and education. We solicit contributions that discuss the opportunities Lisp provides to capture and enhance the possibilities in software engineering. We want to promote lively discussion between researchers proposing new approaches and practitioners reporting on their experience with the strengths and limitations of current Lisp technologies. The workshop will have two components: there will be formal talks, and interactive turorial/demo/coding sessions. Papers ====== Formal presentations in the workshop should take between 20 minutes and half an hour; additional time will be given for questions and answers. Suggested topics include (but are not limited to): - Experience reports / Case studies - Educational approaches - Software Evolution - Development Aids - Persistent Systems - Dynamic Optimization - Implementation techniques - Hardware Support - Efficiency / Distribution / Parallel programming - Macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - Protocol Meta-programming and Libraries - Context-Oriented, Domain-Oriented and Generative Programming Interactive Tutorial/Demo/Coding Sessions ========================================= Additionally, we invite less formal talks in the form of interactive tutorial/demo/coding sessions. The purpose of these sessions is to both demonstrate and receive feedback on any interesting Lisp system, either stable or under development. Being less formal than technical paper presentations, it is expected that these sessions be highly interactive. Submission Guidelines ===================== Potential contributors are encouraged to submit: - a long paper (around 10 pages) presenting scientific and/or empirical results about Lisp-based uses or new approaches for software engineering purposes, - a short essay (5 pages) defending a position about where research, practice or education based on Lisp should be heading in the near future, - a proposal for an interactive tutorial/demo/coding session (1-2 pages) describing the involved library or application, and the subject of the session. Papers (both long and short) should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines (see http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates) and include ACM classification categories and terms (see http://www.acm.org/about/class/1998). Authors will later be required to sign an ACM copyright form. Submissions should be mailed as PDF to Didier Verna (didier(a)lrde.epita.fr) before the submission deadline. Organizers ========== Didier Verna, EPITA Research and Development Laboratory, Paris Charlotte Herzeel, Programming Technology Lab, Vrije Universiteit, Brussel Robert Strandh, LaBRI, University of Bordeaux I, France Christophe Rhodes, Goldsmiths College, University of London Hans Hübner, Software Developer, Berlin -- European Lisp Symposium, May 2009: http://www.european-lisp-symposium.org European Lisp Workshop, July 2009: http://elw.bknr.net/2009 Didier Verna <didier(a)lrde.epita.fr> @ LRDE: 01 44 08 01 85

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[munich-lisp] Reminder [CFP] 6th European Lisp Workshop, July 6th 2009
by Didier Verna 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

+------------------------------------------------------------+ | CALL FOR PAPERS | | 6th European Lisp Workshop | | July 6, Genova, Italy - co-located with ECOOP 2009 | +------------------------------------------------------------+ Important Dates =============== Submission deadline: April 08, 2009 Notification of acceptance: May 08, 2009 ECOOP early registration deadline: May 20, 2009 6th European Lisp Workshop: July 06, 2009 Please note that registration must be done with ECOOP itself. For more information visit http://elw.bknr.net/2009 Contact: Didier Verna, didier(a)lrde.epita.fr 2009 Special News ================= This year, and for the first time, the workshop proceedings will be published in the ACM Digital Library. Also, the workshop will feature interactive tutorial/demo/coding sessions (see below). Overview ======== "...Please don't assume Lisp is only useful for Animation and Graphics, AI, Bio-informatics, B2B and E-Commerce, Data Mining, EDA/Semiconductor applications, Expert Systems, Finance, Intelligent Agents, Knowledge Management, Mechanical CAD, Modeling and Simulation, Natural Language, Optimization, Research, Risk Analysis, Scheduling, Telecom, and Web Authoring just because these are the only things they happened to list." -- Kent Pitman Lisp, one of the eldest computer languages still in use today, is gaining momentum again. The structure of Lisp makes it easy to extend the language or even to implement entirely new dialects without starting from scratch, making it the ideal candidate for writing Domain Specific Languages. Common Lisp, with the Common Lisp Object System (CLOS), was the first object-oriented programming language to receive an ANSI standard and retains the most complete and advanced object system of any programming language, while influencing many other object-oriented programming languages that followed. This workshop will address the near-future role of Lisp-based languages in research, industry and education. We solicit contributions that discuss the opportunities Lisp provides to capture and enhance the possibilities in software engineering. We want to promote lively discussion between researchers proposing new approaches and practitioners reporting on their experience with the strengths and limitations of current Lisp technologies. The workshop will have two components: there will be formal talks, and interactive turorial/demo/coding sessions. Papers ====== Formal presentations in the workshop should take between 20 minutes and half an hour; additional time will be given for questions and answers. Suggested topics include (but are not limited to): - Experience reports / Case studies - Educational approaches - Software Evolution - Development Aids - Persistent Systems - Dynamic Optimization - Implementation techniques - Hardware Support - Efficiency / Distribution / Parallel programming - Macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - Protocol Meta-programming and Libraries - Context-Oriented, Domain-Oriented and Generative Programming Interactive Tutorial/Demo/Coding Sessions ========================================= Additionally, we invite less formal talks in the form of interactive tutorial/demo/coding sessions. The purpose of these sessions is to both demonstrate and receive feedback on any interesting Lisp system, either stable or under development. Being less formal than technical paper presentations, it is expected that these sessions be highly interactive. Submission Guidelines ===================== Potential contributors are encouraged to submit: - a long paper (around 10 pages) presenting scientific and/or empirical results about Lisp-based uses or new approaches for software engineering purposes, - a short essay (5 pages) defending a position about where research, practice or education based on Lisp should be heading in the near future, - a proposal for an interactive tutorial/demo/coding session (1-2 pages) describing the involved library or application, and the subject of the session. Papers (both long and short) should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines (see http://www.acm.org/sigs/publications/proceedings-templates) and include ACM classification categories and terms (see http://www.acm.org/about/class/1998). Authors will later be required to sign an ACM copyright form. Submissions should be mailed as PDF to Didier Verna (didier(a)lrde.epita.fr) before the submission deadline. Organizers ========== Didier Verna, EPITA Research and Development Laboratory, Paris Charlotte Herzeel, Programming Technology Lab, Vrije Universiteit, Brussel Robert Strandh, LaBRI, University of Bordeaux I, France Christophe Rhodes, Goldsmiths College, University of London Hans Hübner, Software Developer, Berlin -- European Lisp Symposium, May 2009: http://www.european-lisp-symposium.org European Lisp Workshop, July 2009: http://elw.bknr.net/2009 Scientific site: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier Music (Jazz) site: http://www.didierverna.com

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[munich-lisp] Meeting in march?
by Marek Kubica 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

Hi, Last time we agreed for a meeing in march. Could we agree on a date and on some topics now? Not that we miss march and realize in april that we forgot something :) I suppose we could meet again in the LMU, since there are probably "Semesterferien" it should be easier to find a room. Considering my topics: Clojure has to be delayed, I didn't have time to use it as much as I'd like, and I'd prefer to do the "Scheme rocks" talk the next time, since I have to do a presentation for another user group this month. If nobody else would present, I could do that, but I'd rather prefer to finish the slides properly. So, how about you? regards, Marek

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