Listers, Lispers,
I have an official reservation for our meeting room now. It's going to be room 1.05, reserved from 17:00-22:00. We have a projector (1024x768) and should also have internet access.
You get to the room by entering the building at the main entrance (aisle has map), turning right, going up, turning right again and walking along until you see the number on the right.
I'd like to advertise the meeting to our students. What are you planning to show/discuss?
Regards,
Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang,
I have an official reservation for our meeting room now. It's going to be room 1.05, reserved from 17:00-22:00. We have a projector (1024x768) and should also have internet access.
Ok, that's nice. Thank you.
I'd like to advertise the meeting to our students. What are you planning to show/discuss?
Jim asked me to talk about the Pico Lisp object system. For a better understanding, I'd like to give a basic introduction to Pico Lisp and an overview about its vertical architecture first, making the reasons behind that object system more clear. I'll keep the presentation as open as possible to allow room for disucssions.
Cheers, - Alex
Alexander Burger Software Lab. / 7fach GmbH Bahnhofstr. 24a, D-86462 Langweid abu@software-lab.de, http://www.software-lab.de, +49 821 9907090
If there are non-lispers invited then perhaps it might be nice to have an ongoing series of lectures (half hour plus questions) about cool lisp features or maybe Lisp for Dummies. This could also be useful for lisp beginners as well.
Some examples.
* How to use CLOS. * Methods before, after, around * Lexical vs dynamic scoping * Lexical closures, and higher order functions * Looping, iteration, and recursion * Implementing common data structues, queues, sets, tree, etc. * Installing LISP on your computer, which implementation, which architecture, which version? * Macros, why do we need them, what can we do with them? * Comparing common patterns in Perl, Python, Java, C, and LISP
Is anyone interested in seeing any of these or other item presented? Does anyone volunteer to present such a topic for this meeting or an upcoming one?
-jim
Wolfgang Mederle wrote:
Listers, Lispers,
I have an official reservation for our meeting room now. It's going to be room 1.05, reserved from 17:00-22:00. We have a projector (1024x768) and should also have internet access.
You get to the room by entering the building at the main entrance (aisle has map), turning right, going up, turning right again and walking along until you see the number on the right.
I'd like to advertise the meeting to our students. What are you planning to show/discuss?
Regards,
Wolfgang
jimka wrote @ Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:01:35 +0100:
If there are non-lispers invited then perhaps it might be nice to have an ongoing series of lectures (half hour plus questions) about cool lisp features or maybe Lisp for Dummies. This could also be useful for lisp beginners as well.
I am probably the least advanced, so i try to give feedback.
Some examples.
- How to use CLOS.
Probably not done right. I would expect Lists as Objects wrapped in macros. If it is something else only then i would be interested.
- Methods before, after, around
dunno what that means.
- Lexical vs dynamic scoping
dunno if that's interesting
- Lexical closures, and higher order functions
- Looping, iteration, and recursion
- Implementing common data structues, queues, sets, tree, etc.
Not really interested, that is common in the ML languages.
- Installing LISP on your computer, which implementation, which architecture, which version?
Not really. Seems like ppl use cmucl or sbcl or clisp or commercial. If it was about scheme this would be more interesting.
- Macros, why do we need them, what can we do with them?
Have read a book by graham, i think he says all there is too say. Summary, macros are cool, cause the language itself is data. Yes other languages would profit from that feature, too.
- Comparing common patterns in Perl, Python, Java, C, and LISP
There is a book by Mark Jason Dominus coming out just now, who tries to do LISP stuff in perl. It's also avalable here: http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/MJD/book.html
Andy
Jim Newton schrieb:
If there are non-lispers invited then perhaps it might be nice to have an ongoing series of lectures (half hour plus questions) about cool lisp features or maybe Lisp for Dummies. This could also be useful for lisp beginners as well.
Some examples.
- How to use CLOS.
- Methods before, after, around
- Lexical vs dynamic scoping
- Lexical closures, and higher order functions
- Looping, iteration, and recursion
- Implementing common data structues, queues, sets, tree, etc.
- Installing LISP on your computer, which implementation, which architecture, which version?
- Macros, why do we need them, what can we do with them?
- Comparing common patterns in Perl, Python, Java, C, and LISP
Is anyone interested in seeing any of these or other item presented? Does anyone volunteer to present such a topic for this meeting or an upcoming one?
I personally would be interested in seeing how other people use the lisp package system plus defsystem3, defsystem4 or asdf. Which naming schemes do people use to name their packages? Do people set-up and use the lisp logical pathnames like with defsystem3? What about the old (require ...) and (provide ...) forms?
I also would be interested in seeing how people use the lisp conditions system to deal with errors.
Besides that I think one of the biggest obstacles for newbies is to get going with lisp. This does not only mean how to install a lisp system but also how to set-up a work environment like emacs plus ilisp and how to solve little simple problems from scratch. Or even how to create simple standalone executables.
Every programming language depends heavily on its documentation. Therefore it might be a good idea aswell to show people the available documentation resources like cltl2 or the ansi standard plus additional online available material.
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