It might be nice to get some of the APIs that are in UIOP into CDRs. I'd love to see some of that code moved to the implementations where it belongs, and out of the ASDF codebase.
cheers,rOn 24 May 2018, at 3:34, Antoniotti Marco wrote:
On May 23, 2018, at 11:57 , Svante v. Erichsen <Svante.v.Erichsen@web.de> wrote:HiI agree that hosting seems not to be the issue. It just needs to be corrected in CDR 4 (adjusting URLs is allowed).Yep.. That should be fixed.I was just asking about the existing procedure, in whatever state that may be, as I am considering participation. Of course, this should be taken to the CDR mailinglists instead, sorry for that.The procedure is quite simple. I quote:
- One or more authors submit a document.
- We (*) check that the document is a printable text document, that it is indeed about Common Lisp, and that it does not contain objectionable material (like porn, religious or political statements, etc.).
- The document will be immediately assigned a fresh CDR number that can be used to refer to the document. We will make the document available for an initial period, after which it will be frozen and moved into final status, unless the authors decide to withdraw the document during the initial period.
(*) the “editors”Apart from my guilty delinquency on redoing the web site, most of the work has been taking care of spam (an inordinate amount of French spam - go figure) on the mailing lists.I disagree about the judgement of the perceived lack of contributions, though. I feel that it is perfectly valid not to have itches that would need to be scratched on the language level.Of course. I do not think that any of the 14 CDRs “scratch itches at the language level”.Having said so, I do believe that a few more CDRs would go a long way to clarify the corner cases of the language while nudging all the implementations (if they are “nudge-able”) to implement them.Cheers—MAYours ayeSvanteAm 23. Mai 2018 08:40:14 MESZ, schrieb Antoniotti Marco <antoniotti.marco@disco.unimib.it>:HiI don’t think the problem is the hosting; CLL works just fine and CDRhold only “finished” documents. I think that the main problem is the*lack* of contributions, which somehow reflects the overall status ofthe community.How to change the attitude of the community into seeing value in whatis in effect a “bottom up” standardization effort, I sincerely don’tknow.Cheers—MAOn May 22, 2018, at 13:14 , Alexandre Rademaker<arademaker@gmail.com> wrote:Back in 2013, ECL in Madrid, I remember some discussions about thefuture of CDR. It would be nice to compare with other similarinitiatives such asPython :https://www.python.org/dev/peps/I’ve also tried to see how Haskell and Racket deal with that. I foundabout Racket. Racket seems to use Github issuesIs there still a place for CDR? If so, maybe we can simply use theGitHub infrastructure? We may also try to find incentives to CDRsubmissions? Maybe associating it to short-papers in ECL/ECLM?Best,--Alexandre Rademakerhttp://arademaker.github.ioOn 22 May 2018, at 06:53, Antoniotti Marco<antoniotti.marco@disco.unimib.it> wrote:HiI have been somewhat stewarding the project, but do not have muchtime to do maintenance (read: revamping the web site) at all.It must also be said that there have not been submissions for CDRs,or requests for much change to old ones in a long time as far as Icould tell.All the bestMarcoOn May 22, 2018, at 11:43 , Svante v. Erichsen<Svante.v.Erichsen@web.de> wrote:Hi!I'd certainly want this project to continue, so I'd considerparticipating in it. Can you give a rough estimate of the frequency ofrequests and the effort needed to address them?I am a bit confused that the project actually seems to reside atcommon-lisp.net, but claims to be hosted at cdr.eurolisp.org (whichredirects to Edi's homepage). How is the work organized technically? Isthere a version control repository?Yours ayeSvanteAm 22. Mai 2018 10:50:20 MESZ, schrieb Pascal Costanza<pc@p-cos.net>:Hi,The Common Lisp Document Repository (CDR -https://common-lisp.net/project/cdr/) is for all practicalpurposescurrently unmaintained. We have been receiving a few minorrequestsrecently, but don’t have the time anymore to take care of this.Is there somebody else in the community who would like to takeover andbreathe some new life into this project?Thanks,Pascal--Pascal Costanza--Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U142043 http://bimib.disco.unimib.itViale Sarca 336I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALYPlease check: http://cdac2018.lakecomoschool.orgPlease check: http://troncopackage.orgPlease check:https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/7394/network-biosciencePlease note that I am not checking my Spam-box anymore.Please do not forward this email without asking me first (cum granosalis).--Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://bimib.disco.unimib.itViale Sarca 336I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALYPlease check: http://cdac2018.lakecomoschool.orgPlease check: http://troncopackage.orgPlease check:https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/7394/network-biosciencePlease note that I am not checking my Spam-box anymore.Please do not forward this email without asking me first (cum granosalis).--Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01Viale Sarca 336I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALYPlease check: http://cdac2018.lakecomoschool.orgPlease check: http://troncopackage.orgPlease check: https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/7394/network-biosciencePlease note that I am not checking my Spam-box anymore.Please do not forward this email without asking me first (cum grano salis).Robert P. GoldmanResearch FellowSmart Information Flow Technologies (d/b/a SIFT, LLC)319 N. First Ave., Suite 400Minneapolis, MN 55401Voice: (612) 326-3934Email: rpgoldman@SIFT.net