On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Scott L. Burson <Scott@sympoiesis.com> wrote:
To put it another way: by your argument, I think the answer to
Juanjo's question doesn't matter very much.  

I think it does. What Nikodemus is arguing is orthogonal to what I am saying. One thing is whether keyword argument parsing of compiler macros is insuficient and whether one has to use &rest and ensure that the order is ok. I am fine with it.

A different issue is the utility of &key. I do not buy the argument that &key should always be used with &allow... in compiler macros. This forfeits any use of &key at all because the values are _never_ going to be trusted at all: one of the arguments might be a variable name and the parser will confuse the user about expectations.

More precisely, if I write

(define-compiler-macro foo (&rest my-args &key some-key-arg &allow-other-keys) ...)

and write (foo :some-key-arg some-value some-variable some-other-value) the parser is going to produce a useless value in some-key-arg. That means I have to do my own parsing of my-args to see whether the keyword arguments are to be trusted.

If on the other hand this definition

(define-compiler-macro foo (&rest my-args &key some-key-arg) ...)

implies that the compiler macro will refuse parsing (without an error) when some argument is not an allowed keyword, then this actually has some utility.

Regarding the issue of argument ordering and other stuff, there are many cases where I want to write compiler macros for the case in which the arguments are simple forms. This case is very simple to check and means that &key arguments have a value by themselves.

Juanjo

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