
Seems like it would be a good service to keep up. I volunteer, if no one else has already spoken up. -Sky On Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM, "Hans Hübner" <hans.huebner@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, I would like to step down from being the pro@ mailing list maintainer. It is not a lot of regular work (maybe one or two visits to the Mailman page per month to forward or reject a message from a non-subscriber), but it might be that the list needs to be moved or something and I would like to avoid getting into a situation where maintenance is required and I don't have time to do it. Also, I'm not a professional Common Lisp user anymore, so I don't qualify for the list at this point anyway :D Any takers? Thanks, Hans

Sky, thank you for taking this over. The administrative interface is here: https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro - The mailing list password is j0hnmcc4rthy - Please try and let me know if it works. Cheers! Hans 2017-11-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com>:
Seems like it would be a good service to keep up. I volunteer, if no one else has already spoken up.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM, "Hans Hübner" <hans.huebner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to step down from being the pro@ mailing list maintainer. It is not a lot of regular work (maybe one or two visits to the Mailman page per month to forward or reject a message from a non-subscriber), but it might be that the list needs to be moved or something and I would like to avoid getting into a situation where maintenance is required and I don't have time to do it. Also, I'm not a professional Common Lisp user anymore, so I don't qualify for the list at this point anyway :D
Any takers?
Thanks, Hans

Ouch On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Hans Hübner <hans.huebner@gmail.com> wrote:
Sky,
thank you for taking this over. The administrative interface is here: https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro - The mailing list password is j0hnmcc4rthy - Please try and let me know if it works.
Cheers! Hans
2017-11-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com>:
Seems like it would be a good service to keep up. I volunteer, if no one else has already spoken up.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM, "Hans Hübner" <hans.huebner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to step down from being the pro@ mailing list maintainer. It is not a lot of regular work (maybe one or two visits to the Mailman page per month to forward or reject a message from a non-subscriber), but it might be that the list needs to be moved or something and I would like to avoid getting into a situation where maintenance is required and I don't have time to do it. Also, I'm not a professional Common Lisp user anymore, so I don't qualify for the list at this point anyway :D
Any takers?
Thanks, Hans

In fairness, it was a nice password for this mailing list. 😬 Cheers, TMD. On 1 Dec 2017, 16:48 -0100, William Lederer , wrote:
Ouch
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Hans Hübner <hans.huebner@gmail.com> wrote:
Sky,
thank you for taking this over. The administrative interface is here: https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro - The mailing list password is j0hnmcc4rthy - Please try and let me know if it works.
Cheers! Hans
2017-11-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com>:
Seems like it would be a good service to keep up. I volunteer, if no one else has already spoken up.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM, "Hans Hübner" <hans.huebner@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to step down from being the pro@ mailing list maintainer. It is not a lot of regular work (maybe one or two visits to the Mailman page per month to forward or reject a message from a non-subscriber), but it might be that the list needs to be moved or something and I would like to avoid getting into a situation where maintenance is required and I don't have time to do it. Also, I'm not a professional Common Lisp user anymore, so I don't qualify for the list at this point anyway :D > > Any takers? > > Thanks, > Hans

Able to log in and see the admin interface. -Sky
On Nov 30, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Steve Haflich <shaflich@gmail.com> wrote:
Sky,
thank you for taking this over. The administrative interface is here: https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro <https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro> - The mailing list password is j0hnmcc4rthy - Please try and let me know if it works.
Cheers! Hans
2017-11-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com <mailto:skyjhester@gmail.com>>: Seems like it would be a good service to keep up. I volunteer, if no one else has already spoken up.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM, "Hans Hübner" <hans.huebner@gmail.com <mailto:hans.huebner@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi,
I would like to step down from being the pro@ mailing list maintainer. It is not a lot of regular work (maybe one or two visits to the Mailman page per month to forward or reject a message from a non-subscriber), but it might be that the list needs to be moved or something and I would like to avoid getting into a situation where maintenance is required and I don't have time to do it. Also, I'm not a professional Common Lisp user anymore, so I don't qualify for the list at this point anyway :D
Any takers?
Thanks, Hans

Also: Co-maintainers are welcome to volunteer! If you so desire, you will be treated to the password of a lifetime, maybe. -Sky
On Dec 1, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com> wrote:
Able to log in and see the admin interface.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Steve Haflich <shaflich@gmail.com <mailto:shaflich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sky,
thank you for taking this over. The administrative interface is here: https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro <https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro> - The mailing list password is j0hnmcc4rthy - Please try and let me know if it works.
Cheers! Hans
2017-11-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com <mailto:skyjhester@gmail.com>>: Seems like it would be a good service to keep up. I volunteer, if no one else has already spoken up.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM, "Hans Hübner" <hans.huebner@gmail.com <mailto:hans.huebner@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi,
I would like to step down from being the pro@ mailing list maintainer. It is not a lot of regular work (maybe one or two visits to the Mailman page per month to forward or reject a message from a non-subscriber), but it might be that the list needs to be moved or something and I would like to avoid getting into a situation where maintenance is required and I don't have time to do it. Also, I'm not a professional Common Lisp user anymore, so I don't qualify for the list at this point anyway :D
Any takers?
Thanks, Hans

0f-4-l1f371m3? Am 1. Dezember 2017 20:59:42 MEZ, schrieb Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com>:
Also: Co-maintainers are welcome to volunteer! If you so desire, you will be treated to the password of a lifetime, maybe.
-Sky
On Dec 1, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com> wrote:
Able to log in and see the admin interface.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Steve Haflich <shaflich@gmail.com <mailto:shaflich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sky,
thank you for taking this over. The administrative interface is here: https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro <https://mailman.common-lisp.net/admindb/pro> - The mailing list password is j0hnmcc4rthy - Please try and let me know if it works.
Cheers! Hans
2017-11-30 17:04 GMT+01:00 Sky Hester <skyjhester@gmail.com <mailto:skyjhester@gmail.com>>: Seems like it would be a good service to keep up. I volunteer, if no one else has already spoken up.
-Sky
On Nov 30, 2017 5:53 AM, "Hans Hübner" <hans.huebner@gmail.com <mailto:hans.huebner@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi,
I would like to step down from being the pro@ mailing list maintainer. It is not a lot of regular work (maybe one or two visits to the Mailman page per month to forward or reject a message from a non-subscriber), but it might be that the list needs to be moved or something and I would like to avoid getting into a situation where maintenance is required and I don't have time to do it. Also, I'm not a professional Common Lisp user anymore, so I don't qualify for the list at this point anyway :D
Any takers?
Thanks, Hans

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Svante v. Erichsen <Svante.v.Erichsen@web.de
wrote:
0f-4-l1f371m3?
Nonsense. It's 0f-4-l1f371m3! To be honest, I think it would be a wonderful testament to the proud morbidity of Lisp if we made the admin password public, put it in the FAQ, and published it every month, and no one ever used it. hth, hk

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Ken Tilton <kentilton@gmail.com> wrote:
To be honest, I think it would be a wonderful testament to the proud morbidity of Lisp if we made the admin password public, put it in the FAQ, and published it every month, and no one ever used it.
There’s precedent in the MACLISP branch of Common Lisp’s family tree. Anyone could login, or run without logging in, from anywhere in the country over the ARPAnet, to the various ITS machines, using whatever lusername they liked, without a password. And anyone could edit any file on the machine, watch what anyone else was doing, and bring the machine down. -- Don Morrison <dfm2@cmu.edu> “Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit.” — W. Somerset Maugham, /The Summing Up/

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Don Morrison <dfm2@cmu.edu> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Ken Tilton <kentilton@gmail.com> wrote:
To be honest, I think it would be a wonderful testament to the proud morbidity of Lisp if we made the admin password public, put it in the FAQ, and published it every month, and no one ever used it.
There’s precedent in the MACLISP branch of Common Lisp’s family tree. Anyone could login, or run without logging in, from anywhere in the country over the ARPAnet, to the various ITS machines, using whatever lusername they liked, without a password. And anyone could edit any file on the machine, watch what anyone else was doing, and bring the machine down.
Thanks for the wonderful history. I was immediately reminded of the Garden of Eden, a time of innocence before we ate from the tree of good and evil. -hk

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 3:40 AM, Ken Tilton <kentilton@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the wonderful history. I was immediately reminded of the Garden of Eden, a time of innocence before we ate from the tree of good and evil.
Curiously, while certainly full of innocence, I think in some ways it may have been less Eden-like and more an antagonistic response to the Great Adversary, deliberately going in a direction opposite to Multics’s concerns for security. An argument could be made that this division laid the ground work for the FOSS movement. Via bits of history in which Lisp (mostly pre-Common) is heavily involved. -- Don Morrison <dfm2@cmu.edu> “Whatever you do, don’t congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody else’s.” —Mary Schmich, /Chicago Post/, 1 June 1997
participants (7)
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Don Morrison
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Hans Hübner
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Ken Tilton
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Sky Hester
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Svante v. Erichsen
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Tiago Maduro Dias
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William Lederer