Dear Lisp hackers, I'm considering recording a walk through the ASDF sources. I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). That should take about 2 hours. To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with either extending it or hacking its internals. If at least one person is familiar with ASDF 2 and has questions, that could be interesting, or that could be a separate session. Please respond me to this email (privately or publicly) if you're interested. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org If a trainstation is where the trains stop, what is then a workstation... — Lars Lundgren <d95lars@dtek.chalmers.se>
I am interested. 03.01.2014, 11:19, "Faré" <fahree@gmail.com>:
Dear Lisp hackers,
I'm considering recording a walk through the ASDF sources.
I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). That should take about 2 hours.
To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with either extending it or hacking its internals.
If at least one person is familiar with ASDF 2 and has questions, that could be interesting, or that could be a separate session.
Please respond me to this email (privately or publicly) if you're interested.
—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org If a trainstation is where the trains stop, what is then a workstation... — Lars Lundgren <d95lars@dtek.chalmers.se>
Regarding this interactive ASDF walkthrough, at this point, I'm trying to find how many people are interested in attending, and finding a convenient date and time for everyone. The intended date would be between January 17-26, by which time ASDF 3.1.1 will be released, hopefully. The session should be about 2 hour long. I'm considering a week day starting between 1700 EST and 0000 EST (UTC-5), preferably 2000 EST. I am more flexible during weekends. The session limited to 10 people max, but if there is a lot of interest, I could do two sessions (or more?) with slightly different focus: maybe 1- using and extending ASDF vs 2- maintaining and hacking it; or 1- uiop vs 2- defsystem, or 1- current state of ASDF vs 2- historic view from ASDF 1 to ASDF 4. One of my motivations is that I intend to retire from active development of ASDF, and only actively fix remaining bugs in UIOP, as needed, but I'd like to leave behind something that's hackable. Another motivation is that I believe ASDF is a nice little gem, that was unearthed in the raw by Dan Barlow, that I have been cutting and polishing, and treating with radiation for enhanced color, though I can't remove some imperfections inside. It's far from perfect, but it has ideas worth appreciating. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org The War on Terrorism is missing the point: what we need is a War on War! — Kennita Watson On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Anton Vodonosov <avodonosov@yandex.ru> wrote:
I am interested.
03.01.2014, 11:19, "Faré" <fahree@gmail.com>:
Dear Lisp hackers,
I'm considering recording a walk through the ASDF sources.
I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). That should take about 2 hours.
To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with either extending it or hacking its internals.
If at least one person is familiar with ASDF 2 and has questions, that could be interesting, or that could be a separate session.
Please respond me to this email (privately or publicly) if you're interested.
—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org If a trainstation is where the trains stop, what is then a workstation... — Lars Lundgren <d95lars@dtek.chalmers.se>
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 02:54 -0500, Faré wrote:
Regarding this interactive ASDF walkthrough, at this point, I'm trying to find how many people are interested in attending, and finding a convenient date and time for everyone. The intended date would be between January 17-26, by which time ASDF 3.1.1 will be released, hopefully.
The session should be about 2 hour long. I'm considering a week day starting between 1700 EST and 0000 EST (UTC-5), preferably 2000 EST. I am more flexible during weekends.
I'm in, but considering the time differential it would be better to do it when everybody can join at a reasonable local hour. 12-14 EST seems most suitable: it would be 9-11 on the west coast and 21-23 in Moscow. -- Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
That would be 04:00 in the morning for me. But, I'm sure I'm the only one in south-east Asia so I'm in the minority and that's understandable. On 3 January 2014 22:17, Stelian Ionescu <sionescu@cddr.org> wrote:
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 02:54 -0500, Faré wrote:
Regarding this interactive ASDF walkthrough, at this point, I'm trying to find how many people are interested in attending, and finding a convenient date and time for everyone. The intended date would be between January 17-26, by which time ASDF 3.1.1 will be released, hopefully.
The session should be about 2 hour long. I'm considering a week day starting between 1700 EST and 0000 EST (UTC-5), preferably 2000 EST. I am more flexible during weekends.
I'm in, but considering the time differential it would be better to do it when everybody can join at a reasonable local hour. 12-14 EST seems most suitable: it would be 9-11 on the west coast and 21-23 in Moscow.
-- Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
Tako rzecze Faré (2014-01-03, 02:13):
I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). That should take about 2 hours.
To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with either extending it or hacking its internals.
Faré, how about running the hangout with the most fluent/advanced participants live and then publishing it for public consumption (modulo all participants' permission, of course)? I certainly wouldn't mind following such a screening offline at my own pace. Thanks, -- [アントシカ]
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:14:41 +0100 Antoni Grzymała <antoni@grzymala.info> wrote:
Faré, how about running the hangout with the most fluent/advanced participants live and then publishing it for public consumption (modulo all participants' permission, of course)? I certainly wouldn't mind following such a screening offline at my own pace.
If it can be published publically (without needing an account) as a video file, (or presentation slides as a postscript/pdf document, or image files), I'd definitely like to look at it too. Thanks, -- Matt
Hello, 2014/1/3 Matthew Mondor <mm_lists@pulsar-zone.net>:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:14:41 +0100 Antoni Grzymała <antoni@grzymala.info> wrote:
Faré, how about running the hangout with the most fluent/advanced participants live and then publishing it for public consumption (modulo all participants' permission, of course)? I certainly wouldn't mind following such a screening offline at my own pace.
If it can be published publically (without needing an account) as a video file, (or presentation slides as a postscript/pdf document, or image files), I'd definitely like to look at it too.
Thanks,
Same for me. I'd prefer watch it offline. Regards, Michał
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Faré <fahree@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Lisp hackers,
I'm considering recording a walk through the ASDF sources.
I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). That should take about 2 hours.
To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with either extending it or hacking its internals.
If at least one person is familiar with ASDF 2 and has questions, that could be interesting, or that could be a separate session.
Please respond me to this email (privately or publicly) if you're interested.
I'm interested.
I’m interested. On Jan 3, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Faré <fahree@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Lisp hackers,
I'm considering recording a walk through the ASDF sources.
I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). That should take about 2 hours.
To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with either extending it or hacking its internals.
If at least one person is familiar with ASDF 2 and has questions, that could be interesting, or that could be a separate session.
Please respond me to this email (privately or publicly) if you're interested.
—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org If a trainstation is where the trains stop, what is then a workstation... — Lars Lundgren <d95lars@dtek.chalmers.se>
i'm also interested, either in the end product or online, but i'm in GMT+6. if the goal is to document the new user-visible goodies of ASDF, then even an hour on this specific topic seems to be a lot (time is scarce, we're all dying! :) but if it's about documenting the internals for people who intend to hack on ASDF, or documenting some of the nice solutions that are interesting even beyond ASDF, then that's a different story due to a different, more involved audience. having a condensed textual blog post with links into the long video may be the best of both worlds. -- • attila lendvai • PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- “When I accept myself, I am freed from the burden of needing you to accept me.” — Steve Maraboli (1975–), 'Unapologetically You'
I'm also interested. - DM On Jan 3, 2014, at 00:13 AM, Faré <fahree@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Lisp hackers,
I'm considering recording a walk through the ASDF sources.
I'd like to have an interactive session over Google Hangout with one or a few people, explaining the current code in asdf/defsystem (i.e. not going into uiop, except to minimally explain what asdf uses). That should take about 2 hours.
To enjoy the walkthrough, you need to be somewhat fluent in Common Lisp, and somewhat familiar with how to use ASDF, though not necessarily with either extending it or hacking its internals.
If at least one person is familiar with ASDF 2 and has questions, that could be interesting, or that could be a separate session.
Please respond me to this email (privately or publicly) if you're interested.
—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org If a trainstation is where the trains stop, what is then a workstation... — Lars Lundgren <d95lars@dtek.chalmers.se>
Dr. David McClain dbm@refined-audiometrics.com
Someone had the courtesy to link on IRC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqqbc31ZZ-U And I thought it also should be forwarded here. Thanks for making this available. -- Matt
participants (12)
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Alessio Stalla -
Anton Vodonosov -
Antoni Grzymała -
Attila Lendvai -
David McClain -
Elias Mårtenson -
Faré -
Matthew Mondor -
mega＠retes.hu -
Michał Psota -
Stelian Ionescu -
Vinay Menon