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Paredit-mode in the slime repl
by Alexandre Rademaker 07 Aug '18

07 Aug '18

After the last Emacs upgrade to 26.1, the M-s key bind from paredit-mode is replaced by `Next element matching (regexp)` command in the slime repl buffer. Sorry for the silly question, but how to get M-s mapped to paredit-splice-sexp again? In a lisp file buffer it is working as expected. Best, -- Alexandre Rademaker http://arademaker.github.io

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emacs lisp mode, mailing list?
by Mark H. David 30 Jun '18

30 Jun '18

Is there a mailing list to ask questions and make suggestions and talk about emacs lisp mode for pro Lispers? Would that be here perhaps?

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CDR maintenance
by Pascal Costanza 25 May '18

25 May '18

Hi, The Common Lisp Document Repository (CDR - https://common-lisp.net/project/cdr/) is for all practical purposes currently unmaintained. We have been receiving a few minor requests recently, but don’t have the time anymore to take care of this. Is there somebody else in the community who would like to take over and breathe some new life into this project? Thanks, Pascal -- Pascal Costanza

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[Final CfPart] ELS 2018, April 16-17, Marbella, Spain
by Didier Verna 08 Apr '18

08 Apr '18

ELS'18 - 11th European Lisp Symposium Centro Cultural Cortijo de Miraflores Marbella, Málaga Spain April 16-17 2018 In cooperation with: ACM SIGPLAN Sponsored by RavenPack, Brunner Software GmbH, Franz Inc., LispWorks Ltd., and EPITA http://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/ Recent news: - ELS 2018 is in cooperation with ACM SIGPLAN - Full program now available on the website - Still one week to register! The purpose of the European Lisp Symposium is to provide a forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp and Lisp-inspired dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, Clojure, ACL2, ECMAScript, Racket, SKILL, Hop and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. Keynote speakers: - Vsevolod Domkin -- Lisp in a Startup: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - R. Matthew Emerson -- This Old Lisp (a look at Clozure CL) Important dates: - 16-17 Apr 2018 Symposium Programme chair: David Cooper, Genworks Intl., USA Local chairs: Andrew Lawson, Ravenpack, Spain Programme committee: Andy Wingo, Igalia, Spain Christophe Rhodes, Goldsmiths University, UK Christopher Wellons Null Program USA Ernst van Waning, Infometrics.nl, Netherlands Irène Durand, LaBRI, Université de Bordeaux, France Julian Padget, University of Bath, UK Ludovic Courtès, Inria, France Michael Sperber, DeinProgramm, Germany Nicolas Neuss, FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany Olin Shivers Northeastern University USA Philipp Marek, Austria Robert Strandh, Université de Bordeaux, France Sacha Chua Living an Awesome Life Canada Scott McKay, Future Fuel, USA Search Keywords: #els2018, ELS 2018, ELS '18, European Lisp Symposium 2018, European Lisp Symposium '18, 10th ELS, 10th European Lisp Symposium, European Lisp Conference 2018, European Lisp Conference '18 -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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[CfPart] European Lisp Symposium 2018, 16-17 April, Marbella, Spain
by Didier Verna 14 Mar '18

14 Mar '18

ELS'18 - 11th European Lisp Symposium Centro Cultural Cortijo de Miraflores Marbella, Málaga Spain April 16-17 2018 Sponsored by Brunner Software GmbH, Franz Inc., LispWorks Ltd., and EPITA http://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/ Recent news: - Invited speakers announced (see below) - Registration open. Don't miss the March 25 deadline for the early bird discount! The purpose of the European Lisp Symposium is to provide a forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp and Lisp-inspired dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, Clojure, ACL2, ECMAScript, Racket, SKILL, Hop and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. Keynote speakers: - Vsevolod Domkin -- Lisp in a Startup: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - R. Matthew Emerson -- This Old Lisp (a look at Clozure CL) Important dates: - 25 Mar 2018 Early registration deadline - 16-17 Apr 2018 Symposium Programme chair: David Cooper, Genworks Intl., USA Local chairs: Andrew Lawson, Ravenpack, Spain Programme committee: Andy Wingo, Igalia, Spain Christophe Rhodes, Goldsmiths University, UK Christopher Wellons Null Program Canada Irène Durand, LaBRI, Université de Bordeaux, France Julian Padget, University of Bath, UK Ludovic Courtès, Inria, France Michael Sperber, DeinProgramm, Germany Nicolas Neuss, FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany Olin Shivers Northeastern University USA Philipp Marek, Austria Robert Strandh, LaBRI, Université de Bordeaux, France Sacha Chua Living an Awesome Life Canada Scott McKay, Future Fuel, USA Search Keywords: #els2018, ELS 2018, ELS '18, European Lisp Symposium 2018, European Lisp Symposium '18, 10th ELS, 10th European Lisp Symposium, European Lisp Conference 2018, European Lisp Conference '18 -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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[Final CfP] European Lisp Symposium 2018 -- Deadline extension
by Didier Verna 20 Feb '18

20 Feb '18

ELS'18 - 11th European Lisp Symposium Centro Cultural Cortijo de Miraflores Marbella, Málaga Spain April 16-17 2018 Sponsored by Brunner Software GmbH and EPITA http://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/ *** Important: submission deadline extended to Sunday Feb. 25! The purpose of the European Lisp Symposium is to provide a forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp and Lisp-inspired dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, Clojure, ACL2, ECMAScript, Racket, SKILL, Hop and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The 11th European Lisp Symposium invites high quality papers about novel research results, insights and lessons learned from practical applications and educational perspectives. We also encourage submissions about known ideas as long as they are presented in a new setting and/or in a highly elegant way. Topics include but are not limited to: - Context-, aspect-, domain-oriented and generative programming - Macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - Language design and implementation - Language integration, inter-operation and deployment - Development methodologies, support and environments - Educational approaches and perspectives - Experience reports and case studies We invite submissions in the following forms: Papers: Technical papers of up to 8 pages that describe original results or explain known ideas in new and elegant ways. Demonstrations: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries, and applications. Tutorials: Abstracts of up to 4 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest for at least 90 minutes and up to 180 minutes. The symposium will also provide slots for lightning talks, to be registered on-site every day. All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM Computing Classification System 2012 concepts and terms. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair, at the following address: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=els2018 Note: to help us with the review process please indicate the type of submission by entering either "paper", "demo", or "tutorial" in the Keywords field. Important dates: - 25 Feb 2018 Submission deadline (*** extended! ***) - 19 Mar 2018 Notification of acceptance - 25 Mar 2018 Early registration deadline - 02 Apr 2018 Final papers due - 16-17 Apr 2018 Symposium Programme chair: David Cooper, Genworks Intl., USA Local chairs: Andrew Lawson, Ravenpack, Spain Programme committee: Andy Wingo, Igalia, Spain Christophe Rhodes, Goldsmiths University, UK Christopher Wellons Null Program Canada Irène Durand, LaBRI, Université de Bordeaux, France Julian Padget, University of Bath, UK Ludovic Courtès, Inria, France Michael Sperber, DeinProgramm, Germany Nicolas Neuss, FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany Olin Shivers Northwestern University USA Philipp Marek, Austria Robert Strandh, LaBRI, Université de Bordeaux, France Sacha Chua Living an Awesome Life Canada Scott McKay, Future Fuel, USA Search Keywords: #els2018, ELS 2018, ELS '18, European Lisp Symposium 2018, European Lisp Symposium '18, 10th ELS, 10th European Lisp Symposium, European Lisp Conference 2018, European Lisp Conference '18 -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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[CfP] ELS 2018, April 16-17, Marbella, Spain
by Didier Verna 13 Feb '18

13 Feb '18

Reminder: submission deadline this sunday! ELS'18 - 11th European Lisp Symposium Centro Cultural Cortijo de Miraflores Marbella, Málaga Spain April 16-17 2018 Sponsored by Brunner Software GmbH and EPITA http://www.european-lisp-symposium.org/ The purpose of the European Lisp Symposium is to provide a forum for the discussion and dissemination of all aspects of design, implementation and application of any of the Lisp and Lisp-inspired dialects, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Emacs Lisp, AutoLisp, ISLISP, Dylan, Clojure, ACL2, ECMAScript, Racket, SKILL, Hop and so on. We encourage everyone interested in Lisp to participate. The 11th European Lisp Symposium invites high quality papers about novel research results, insights and lessons learned from practical applications and educational perspectives. We also encourage submissions about known ideas as long as they are presented in a new setting and/or in a highly elegant way. Topics include but are not limited to: - Context-, aspect-, domain-oriented and generative programming - Macro-, reflective-, meta- and/or rule-based development approaches - Language design and implementation - Language integration, inter-operation and deployment - Development methodologies, support and environments - Educational approaches and perspectives - Experience reports and case studies We invite submissions in the following forms: Papers: Technical papers of up to 8 pages that describe original results or explain known ideas in new and elegant ways. Demonstrations: Abstracts of up to 2 pages for demonstrations of tools, libraries, and applications. Tutorials: Abstracts of up to 4 pages for in-depth presentations about topics of special interest for at least 90 minutes and up to 180 minutes. The symposium will also provide slots for lightning talks, to be registered on-site every day. All submissions should be formatted following the ACM SIGS guidelines and include ACM Computing Classification System 2012 concepts and terms. Submissions should be uploaded to Easy Chair, at the following address: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=els2018 Note: to help us with the review process please indicate the type of submission by entering either "paper", "demo", or "tutorial" in the Keywords field. Important dates: - 18 Feb 2018 Submission deadline - 19 Mar 2018 Notification of acceptance - 25 Mar 2018 Early registration deadline - 02 Apr 2018 Final papers due - 16-17 Apr 2018 Symposium Programme chair: David Cooper, Genworks Intl., USA Local chairs: Andrew Lawson, Ravenpack, Spain Programme committee: Christophe Rhodes, Goldsmiths University, UK Christopher Wellons Null Program Canada Irène Durand, LaBRI, Université de Bordeaux, France Julian Padget, University of Bath, UK Ludovic Courtès, Inria, France Michael Sperber, DeinProgramm, Germany Nicolas Neuss, Universität Karlsruhe, Germany Olin Shivers Northwestern University USA Robert Strandh, LaBRI, Université de Bordeaux, France Sacha Chua Living an Awesome Life Canada Scott McKay, Future Fuel, USA Search Keywords: #els2018, ELS 2018, ELS '18, European Lisp Symposium 2018, European Lisp Symposium '18, 10th ELS, 10th European Lisp Symposium, European Lisp Conference 2018, European Lisp Conference '18 -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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Contradiction between the MOP and the standard ?
by Didier Verna 22 Jan '18

22 Jan '18

Hi, In the CLHS page for ENSURE-GENERIC-FUNCTION, there is this paragraph: "If function-name specifies a generic function that has a different value for the :generic-function-class argument and if the new generic function class is compatible[1] with the old, change-class is called to change the class of the generic function; otherwise an error is signaled." In the AMOP however, one can read the following. >From the page on ENSURE-GENERIC-FUNCTION: "The behavior of this function is actually implemented by the generic function ensure-generic-function-using-class. When ensure-generic-function is called, it immediately calls ensure-generic-function-using-class and returns that result as its own." And then from the page on ENSURE-GENERIC-FUNCTION-USING-CLASS: "If the class of the generic-function-or-nil argument is not the same as the class specified by the :generic-function-class argument, an error is signaled." Let alone the fact that this should only apply when there actually is an existing generic function, this seems to be in contradiction with the Common Lisp standard, as it would explicitly forbid changing the class of the generic function, even in a "compatible" way. Comments? Footnotes: [1] BTW, what does "compatible" mean ? -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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One annoyance of ensure-generic-function-using-class
by Didier Verna 02 Jan '18

02 Jan '18

Hello, there is something annoying with ensure-generic-function-using-class. The MOP specifies that if the :generic-function-class option is not provided, it defaults to standard-generic-function. While this makes perfect sense when the generic function doesn't already exist, it seems to also apply when it does. As a result, if you want to call ensure-generic-function on an existing generic function using a different meta-class, for instance like this: (ensure-generic-function gf-name :generic-function-class (class-of gf)) This is a bit annoying, and I don't understand the rationale behind this, if there's one. Why not defaulting to the existing generic function's meta-class? -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

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Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?
by Faré 27 Dec '17

27 Dec '17

OK, I'm setting the day and time for the next ASDF debugging session to Tuesday January 2nd 2018 at 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC). Please send me a private email if you can make it, I'll add you to a Google Calendar event with a Hangout invitation. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• http://fare.tunes.org When it comes to giving, some men stop at nothing. — Saul Gorn On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Faré <fahree(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman(a)sift.info> wrote: >> On 4 Dec 2017, at 21:56, Faré wrote: >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/asdf/+bug/1739514 >>> Basically, ASDF fails spuriously rebuilds misnamed secondary systems >>> and/or things that depend on them, instead of just issuing a warning >>> as intended. >> >> Another editing query here. Looks like it might be either "ASDF fails to rebuild" or "ASDF spuriously rebuilds misnamed..." >> > Yes, it's "ASDF spuriously rebuilds misnamed...". > > Note that if it were a simple circular dependency, it would have just > broken the build and be very visible and I'd have caught it last year. > > Without having looked at the code or tried to debug it yet, my working > hypothesis is that having "foo" in "foo.asd" depend on "bar" also > defined in "foo.asd" causes dependency from (define-op "foo") to > (define-op . "bar"), which is always in need of build because there is > no "bar.asd" and the associated timestamp is therefore NIL. If that is > correct, the backward-compatible solution would be to make sure that > "bar" remembers that it was defined in "foo.asd", so that it gets the > timestamp from "foo.asd", and the next time around, if there is no > up-to-date "bar.asd", ASDF falls back on looking at the previously > loaded "foo.asd" or a more up-to-date version of it. > > Note that if "bar" is defined in both "foo.asd" and "bar.asd" you'll > still have a mighty bug. Therefore people should still fix their code > to properly name secondary system, ASDF should still issue a warning > when they are misnamed, and this warning should still be upgraded to a > cerror then an error when all of Quicklisp is fixed (>300 systems).

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