Maybe I've been stuck in an outmoded idea... Maybe there is no longer much use for the kind of users' group that I've been advocating. Then again, I foolishly expected that by putting LispSea in motion again, others would step up to action. Not words-- action. While I don't mind doing the necessary work, I won't do /all/ the work myself. I suggest continuing the mailing list solely for purposes of finding local Lisp people easily. Nothing more. That is, you won't receive another post by me on this list unless I have something like a Lisp job to be filled or the seminar/workshop effort makes real progress. Thanks for exploring this idea with me over the past month. I've already updated the wiki. http://wiki.alu.org/lispsea?version=17 Take care, -Daniel PS - if you don't know the reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_soup